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    BIOS 1001: Everything is perfect, OC stable and RAM Boots fine @ 3200Mhz

    New BIOS 0082: RAM does not POST @ 3200Mhz and it lowers to 2133Mhz (cold boot). You need to enter the BIOS and save changes to make it boot back to 3200Mhz. Q-Code is 27 ----> 3E
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    Quote Originally Posted by KEyBAD View Post
    Tested 0082 on G Skill F4-3200C16-8GVKB:
    Still (like 1002) stable at 2400Mhz available, and on 15-15-15-36@1.2v

    But at 2666+Mhz it still fail POST... even on 16-18-18-38@1.35v (that supposed to be at 3200Mhz)

    Overclock fail recovery (save params) works better now!
    This is disappointing

    I have the very similar G.Skill F4-3200C16D-8GTZR (Trident Z RGB, Hynix die) and I have observed the same until now, including BIOS 1002:
    - It is impossible to go over 2400Mhz multiplier with this ram (2x8gb), 0d no POST. The highest I have achieved is 2500 (with bclk 104.2 and multi 2400) and timings 12-14-14-14-30 @1.35V, which is just a linear down-scaling from the 3200-16-18-18-18-38 it is rated at.

    I am almost sure the trident Z has the same Hynix IC than the Ripjaws you have. So I guess I can't expect much improvements yet.

    I have heard that above 2400 multi, the command rate switches to 1T, so I wonder whether that is the problem with our ram (which is rated for 2T).

    Will try 0083 tonight and see if I can go past 2400.

    Thanks for the useful info and continuous development guys.

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    So, been running 0082 for a couple days now. Got some very nice benchmarks from phoronix. Things are quite stable.

    My issue is the temperature. It just seems very odd that this platform (1800x) runs so much hotter than my 8350 did. Both have similar tdp. The new chip has a much better die size so it should result in less energy needed, hence less heat, but to reach the same clock rate as my 8350 (4Ghz), it seems to run significantly hotter.

    I'd think maybe something with offsets, but the other temps reported aren't off from what they ought to be. But it seems to be the norm. Under full load after just a few minutes, even with my water cooled setup, the temps will approach 75-80C. My air cooled 8350 would be lucky to break out of the 50's. Granted, it was no where near as fast as the 1800x. I've seen other overclocked water cooled setups showing around the same temps, so i guess it's normal.

    I guess i'm just not confident in the longevity of the cpu if it's running at 75-80C for longer than a couple minutes at a time. It feels wrong though, to run at a slower frequency than my previous 8350. The choice seem to be, have an extra 400Mhz but dont try and use it for very long or you'll cook your cpu or run at stock speeds. :/ So it seems, back to stock speeds it will be. It's also weird how fast the temperature fluctuates. The water cooling should absorb heat extremely well but there's almost no delay to temperatures rising or falling and i'm not using the am4 mounting brackets so that standoff issue isn't the problem and the radiator isn't suddenly putting out hot air. I'm guessing the architecture changes has made it harder to dissipate heat than the piledriver arch?

    Either that or the temp offsets aren't linear.

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    When is the official release of the BIOS with AGESA 1004? ASUS page still says that 1002 ist the latest version of the BIOS for the CH6. Gigabyte rolled out updated BIOS with AGESA 1004 yesterday. AMD said in his community blog, that they will start the roll out for Ryzen Master today and that with updated AGESA HPET is not longer necessary.

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    Just a quick update since my last post.

    BIOS 0083 has allowed me to clock my Hynix ram to 3200MHz at rated timings out of the box (no bclk overclock)!

    This is a major improvement over the max 2400MHz I had before with my G.Skill F4-3200C16D-8GTZR.

    Noticed reduced boot times, and aura led working fine for me (at least set to red as before).

    Will test now if that changes the voltage my 1700 needs to run at 3960MHz (its best compromize for quiet operation).

    Many thanks to the team for those major bios improvements.

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    testresults

    My findings:

    System details:

    Ryzen R7 1700 @ 3.88 Ghz
    Asus Crosshair VI Hero (BIOS: 0083)
    G.Skill F4-3200C16D-32GTZKY (2x 16GB) @ 1.35v D.O.C.P.5 Profile enabled (timings 16/18/18/38)

    results:

    System does POST with the 3200mhz profile enabled, but will unfortunately only clock the memory at 2133 (*1066mhz)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Ender View Post
    So, been running 0082 for a couple days now. Got some very nice benchmarks from phoronix. Things are quite stable.

    My issue is the temperature. It just seems very odd that this platform (1800x) runs so much hotter than my 8350 did. Both have similar tdp. The new chip has a much better die size so it should result in less energy needed, hence less heat, but to reach the same clock rate as my 8350 (4Ghz), it seems to run significantly hotter.

    I'd think maybe something with offsets, but the other temps reported aren't off from what they ought to be. But it seems to be the norm. Under full load after just a few minutes, even with my water cooled setup, the temps will approach 75-80C. My air cooled 8350 would be lucky to break out of the 50's. Granted, it was no where near as fast as the 1800x. I've seen other overclocked water cooled setups showing around the same temps, so i guess it's normal.

    I guess i'm just not confident in the longevity of the cpu if it's running at 75-80C for longer than a couple minutes at a time. It feels wrong though, to run at a slower frequency than my previous 8350. The choice seem to be, have an extra 400Mhz but dont try and use it for very long or you'll cook your cpu or run at stock speeds. :/ So it seems, back to stock speeds it will be. It's also weird how fast the temperature fluctuates. The water cooling should absorb heat extremely well but there's almost no delay to temperatures rising or falling and i'm not using the am4 mounting brackets so that standoff issue isn't the problem and the radiator isn't suddenly putting out hot air. I'm guessing the architecture changes has made it harder to dissipate heat than the piledriver arch?

    Either that or the temp offsets aren't linear.

    What I want to know is, has the temperature offset been 'fixed' in bios v1002 ? Or is the temp displaying in the bios still with the 20C offset ?

    Reason I ask, is that AIDA64 latest build (27/03/2017) claims to have fixed this offset so the temps it displays (CPU Diode) are now accurate. However the temps AIDA64 displays are identical to that in the bios and the same as older monitoring software that has not been 'fixed' for Ryzen.

    so if bios 1002 is still displaying the temp with a 20C offset, then AIDA64 isn't working correctly, despite the claim...hmmm

    My current idles are @4Ghz, around the 54C mark and hit 80-85C under load (Cinebench), according to AIDA's CPU diode reading, (the version that supposedly has been 'fixed') with a H220X cooler, does this seem right ?!

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    the 082 so far has been the best efi to date for me, flawless cold boot with 3200mhz ram, temps now i have my 1800x under my Kraken x62 have been awesome, idle temps in the mid 30's and full loads in the high 40's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theagg View Post
    What I want to know is, has the temperature offset been 'fixed' in bios v1002 ? Or is the temp displaying in the bios still with the 20C offset ?

    Reason I ask, is that AIDA64 latest build (27/03/2017) claims to have fixed this offset so the temps it displays (CPU Diode) are now accurate. However the temps AIDA64 displays are identical to that in the bios and the same as older monitoring software that has not been 'fixed' for Ryzen.

    so if bios 1002 is still displaying the temp with a 20C offset, then AIDA64 isn't working correctly, despite the claim...hmmm

    My current idles are @4Ghz, around the 54C mark and hit 80-85C under load (Cinebench), according to AIDA's CPU diode reading, (the version that supposedly has been 'fixed') with a H220X cooler, does this seem right ?!

    I'm still using the same bios i mentioned above. Temps, dont appear to have changed at all for the 1800x. If you change to about 1.4v vcore and 40x multiplier with 100mhz blck, you can expect the temps to say you're idling around 50C with instant spikes into 60C for any activity. Loaded, you see from 85-90C. This with a water cooling system that feels to the touch, to be barely dealing with 60C.

    So my guess is that the temp offset mess is still not corrected. I haven't yet aimed my temp gun at the block to see, once it normalizes to the cpu temp, what it shows.

    My question that would remain is what actually is the point of the offset, because fan profiles just sounds like a stupid BS reason. Is the location of the temp sensor on Ryzen 7 cpu's not ideal so they put an offset to compensate for hotter running 1800 and cooler running 1700 but centered on the 1700x (and that's why it doesn't have an offset)? I just worry why this offset was implemented, because i dont buy the fan profile reason and it seems odd they'd skew the temp sensor for some nonsense reason, despite all evidence pointing to just that... a skew for no good reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximusst View Post
    My findings:

    System details:

    Ryzen R7 1700 @ 3.88 Ghz
    Asus Crosshair VI Hero (BIOS: 0083)
    G.Skill F4-3200C16D-32GTZKY (2x 16GB) @ 1.35v D.O.C.P.5 Profile enabled (timings 16/18/18/38)

    results:

    System does POST with the 3200mhz profile enabled, but will unfortunately only clock the memory at 2133 (*1066mhz)
    Okay, a little update. I've been playing with the bclk value, and it seems i am able to push up the memory speed to 1252/(XMP2500)

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    Still no 1600 (XMP3200) though...
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