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    Quote Originally Posted by Clouseau View Post
    Would beg to differ about performance above 3200. Those tests can say whatever they want. Ryzen starts to wake up above 3200 with tight timings. Actual FPS may only improve by ~ 3% but everything outside of that is noticeably far more responsive. Gaming, currently, diminishing returns starts to kick in after 3200. Raw cpu GHz is not as important as how the ram is set. Just the few Mhz above 3466 with the timings from my post above made noticeable improvements. Performance is not shabby with ram at 3200 but the combination of tight timings and 3466 or above, feels like the whole system is just beginning to stretch its legs. Setting up the CBS section, in particular the DF Common Settings, has noticeable impact on performance; not just talking gaming. Each interleaving discipline has its advantages and disadvantages along with the interleaving size. Personally have found that an interleaving size of 512 ended up being a decent compromise. Plus did not purchase this board to not push the limits no matter how small the gains end up being. Right wrong, or indifferent; just my opinion.
    The snappy response of every click and program opening when RAM speeds are above 3466 is a noticeable difference as well.
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    If people are doubting the truth of what you are saying, throw some phoronix or similar benchmarks up that test the system instead of just graphics or one subsystem and it should be pretty clear when all you change is the ram speed that performance is improved significantly.

    No need to rely on feelings and it shuts everyone up.

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    Just dropping to say that both the 3502 and 6001 lock my 1700 CPU to 2.25GHz/2.7GHz. The 2.2GHz lock happens if the CPU multiplier or CPU voltage is changed from Auto, the 2.7GHz lock occurs if the multiplier and voltage are left on Auto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clouseau View Post
    Would beg to differ about performance above 3200. Those tests can say whatever they want. Ryzen starts to wake up above 3200 with tight timings. Actual FPS may only improve by ~ 3% but everything outside of that is noticeably far more responsive. Gaming, currently, diminishing returns starts to kick in after 3200. Raw cpu GHz is not as important as how the ram is set. Just the few Mhz above 3466 with the timings from my post above made noticeable improvements. Performance is not shabby with ram at 3200 but the combination of tight timings and 3466 or above, feels like the whole system is just beginning to stretch its legs. Setting up the CBS section, in particular the DF Common Settings, has noticeable impact on performance; not just talking gaming. Each interleaving discipline has its advantages and disadvantages along with the interleaving size. Personally have found that an interleaving size of 512 ended up being a decent compromise. Plus did not purchase this board to not push the limits no matter how small the gains end up being. Right wrong, or indifferent; just my opinion.
    But the most common question is about the gaming performance, because this board stands for ROG.
    You r right, in non-gaming scenarios its performance increase noticeable with the faster ram.

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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array Clouseau PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Ender View Post
    If people are doubting the truth of what you are saying, throw some phoronix or similar benchmarks up that test the system instead of just graphics or one subsystem and it should be pretty clear when all you change is the ram speed that performance is improved significantly.

    No need to rely on feelings and it shuts everyone up.
    How can one get phoronix test suite to run under Windows 10? Downloaded what Git Hub had to offer and also the PHP files from Windows.PHP.Net and was a no go. Do not use Linux and no time is being devoted to the Windows platform due to unpopularity. Any help or guidance would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clouseau View Post
    Would beg to differ about performance above 3200. Those tests can say whatever they want. Ryzen starts to wake up above 3200 with tight timings. Actual FPS may only improve by ~ 3% but everything outside of that is noticeably far more responsive. Gaming, currently, diminishing returns starts to kick in after 3200. Raw cpu GHz is not as important as how the ram is set. Just the few Mhz above 3466 with the timings from my post above made noticeable improvements. Performance is not shabby with ram at 3200 but the combination of tight timings and 3466 or above, feels like the whole system is just beginning to stretch its legs. Setting up the CBS section, in particular the DF Common Settings, has noticeable impact on performance; not just talking gaming. Each interleaving discipline has its advantages and disadvantages along with the interleaving size. Personally have found that an interleaving size of 512 ended up being a decent compromise. Plus did not purchase this board to not push the limits no matter how small the gains end up being. Right wrong, or indifferent; just my opinion.
    The 'subjective' feel would almost certainly be a result of lower latency allowing updates to occur on screen just a little faster, but allowing the update to occur on an entirely earlier frame (modern OSes use compositing, so they act like games in their rendering behavior).

    If you are running 60hz on the desktop, then you are moving from having completion on-screen by 16.7ms - which you can absolutely feel. If you took 16.8ms to compute something before, you wouldn't see it for 33.4ms... but, now, computing it in 16.6ms, you see it twice as quickly.

    The old way of rendering (direct) allowed you to feel a 10% performance increase in everything you did. But, now, you need BIG changes to feel it everywhere... but, once you get close, it only takes a tiny bit extra to put you over the top - the changes are accumulative.

    Using 120hz refresh rate on the desktop allows you to feel the performance jumps even better, but you still have 8ms chunks of time.

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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array Clouseau PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by looncraz View Post
    The 'subjective' feel would almost certainly be a result of lower latency allowing updates to occur on screen just a little faster, but allowing the update to occur on an entirely earlier frame (modern OSes use compositing, so they act like games in their rendering behavior).

    If you are running 60hz on the desktop, then you are moving from having completion on-screen by 16.7ms - which you can absolutely feel. If you took 16.8ms to compute something before, you wouldn't see it for 33.4ms... but, now, computing it in 16.6ms, you see it twice as quickly.

    The old way of rendering (direct) allowed you to feel a 10% performance increase in everything you did. But, now, you need BIG changes to feel it everywhere... but, once you get close, it only takes a tiny bit extra to put you over the top - the changes are accumulative.

    Using 120hz refresh rate on the desktop allows you to feel the performance jumps even better, but you still have 8ms chunks of time.
    Thank you for the information. Will try to keep it in mind.

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    Guys I have one more question.

    On BIOS 1701, with default and overclocked cpu/ram, fast boot and csm off, when I turn on my pc from 'shut down' state and watch q-codes on motherboard there is no repetition between codes. And colors goes as: orange, red, white, green.

    But with 3008 and 3502 BIOS only when I overclock cpu/ram and turn on pc, I see that it repeat some codes. Color goes as: orange, red, orange red, white green. When it come to 3b q-code (red color), it start from start and after that normal sequence.

    Is it a bug or it is supposed to be like that? It even happens in 3008 , 3502 when I change turn off fast boot and csm off, so I dont need to overclock it.
    Last edited by sbakic; 03-02-2018 at 06:46 PM.

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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array Clouseau PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbakic View Post
    Guys I have one more question.

    On BIOS 1701, with default and overclocked cpu/ram, fast boot and csm off, when I turn on my pc from 'shut down' state and watch q-codes on motherboard there is no repetition between codes. And colors goes as: orange, red, white, green.

    But with 3008 and 3502 BIOS only when I overclock cpu/ram and turn on pc, I see that it repeat some codes. Color goes as: orange, red, orange red, white green. When it come to 3b q-code (red color), it start from start and after that normal sequence.

    Is it a bug or it is supposed to be like that? It even happens in 3008 , 3502 when I change turn off fast boot and csm off, so I dont need to overclock it.
    iirc 1701 did not have the cold boot fix included. Think the cold boot fix was not included again till 3008 and has been part of the bios releases since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clouseau View Post
    iirc 1701 did not have the cold boot fix included. Think the cold boot fix was not included again till 3008 and has been part of the bios releases since.
    So that means that you got same q-code and light sequence when you turn pc (orange - red - orange -red - white - green(, but with restart you get (orange -red- white -green no repeat), right?

    Can you all check it just for current bios you have, sequence of colors when you turn on pc from "shut down" state. Thanks

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