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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigtran View Post
    No problem also, 3466 CL14 @ 1.37V

    Attachment 67822
    Heh, nice.
    You got it a bit more efficient.



    Timings2: https://i.imgur.com/6IkKSxf.png
    Timings3: https://i.imgur.com/WfQq2q6.png

    I had to up the voltage of RAM from 1.35V to 1.4V to be able to boot 3466MHz, but I didnt even try anything between the voltage (like 1.37)
    It wouldnt like any higher, so I didnt really bother much yet.

    I see few differences in timings (although you have a different model), I didnt really tweak those from my default XMP 3200 yet. I only overridden the auto settings with the ones found in SPD XMP along with applying D.O.C.P.

    Gotta tweak moar xD
    Last edited by Neoony; 10-02-2017 at 04:57 PM.

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    G.Skill F4-3200C16-8GTZB 16GB


    https://valid.x86.fr/a81ixh

    with this stiks G.Skill F4-3200C16-8GTZB 16GB made 3200HMz 16-18-18-38-69-1T

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    can't post mem tweakit wont log in into my account

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3dleh View Post
    can't post mem tweakit wont log in into my account
    It doesn't work for me either... It say "UserInfo.ini not found!"

    Anyhow, here is my final memory settings tweakit report and score:
    Rock stable, checked with HCI memtest, MemTest64, Prime95, BOINC, several games...
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    https://valid.x86.fr/2z1bpj
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    great result

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS View Post
    It is generally advised not to combine multiple kits - even the same make and model. The kit is tested at the rated density (of a single kit) only, so two kits together may not achieve the same speed. When you purchase a single high-density kit, you're paying extra for the fact there's more chance the kit will work as advertised.
    I have a single kit and it still doesn't works.

    Any thought ?

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    Question G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin 3200 14cl F4-3200C14D-16GTZR

    Hi Guys,

    I haven't tried to OC my dram for a long time since initial fails after I purchased it back in may. Now with the new bios update I was able to get it to work semi-stable at 3200 mhz on Stilt's Safe 3200 1.4v 14cl preset (the only issue I am having is that sometimes (not always) DRAM will not post after a cold boot, and will start with 2133 mhz, but bios settings still show that 3200 is selected, so I have to change it to auto - restart; then change it to 3200 again and restart, and that returns the dram to 3200mhz until another no-post and 2133 reset in a few days).

    Can I get these sticks to run stable at 3333 or 3466? I am seeing drastic in-game fps increase with 3200 compared to 2133 (like 20+ min fps increase in the game I play - Battlerite), so I would like to see if it can be increased even higher with higher dram frequency.

    I would appreciate any advice either regarding how to get my 3200 more stable, or maybe somebody could share their experience with maing this dram run at higher then stock 3200 speeds.

    My set up, if this matter: C6H, Ryzen 5 1600 with x37 OC to 3700 mhz, G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin 3200 14cl F4-3200C14D-16GTZR, Strix RX580 8gb, TT 750 watt gold PSU.

    Thanks!

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    Basically, RAM that you have is same as mine, single rank Samsung b-die, rated 3200CL14. Cold boot experienced is common for many users when set to 3200MHz or higher - to blame are ASUS and AMD. There are some partial workarounds but not a final solution, you can read in other threads on this forum, like here:
    https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post684401

    Anyway, Ryzen is responding very well to increased memory speed since its internal "Infinity Fabric" is running in sync with memory. From my experiance and from what I seen on overclock.net forum, I have no doubt that any single rank Samsung b-die can run stable at 3333MHz CL14 at 1.35V. Often 3466MHz is also possible and stable at around 1.40V but it sometimes require a bit of luck and patience in finetuning few IMC and memory parameters to have it 100% stable.
    Last edited by Sigtran; 11-16-2017 at 05:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigtran View Post
    Basically, RAM that you have is same as mine, single rank Samsung b-die, rated 3200CL14. Cold boot experienced is common for many users when set to 3200MHz or higher - to blame are ASUS and AMD. There are some partial workarounds but not a final solution, you can read in other threads on this forum.

    Anyway, Ryzen is responding very well to increased memory speed since its internal "Infinity Fabric" is running in sync with memory. From my experiance and from what I seen on overclock.net forum, I have no doubt that any single rank Samsung b-die can run stable at 3333MHz CL14 at 1.35V. Often 3466MHz is also possible and stable at around 1.40V but it sometimes require a bit of luck and patience in finetuning few IMC and memory parameters to have it 100% stable.
    Thanks for the response! What frequency do you have your dram set to (and settings - do you use preset or have em entered manually?)? Also, do you know if setting fail count to 3-4 might help with cold boot issues, or is there something internally wrong, and no matter how many fail counts you set the dram will not post until reset to 2133?

    I am also wondering why silt's safe settings for 3200 dram run it at 1.4v if everybody seem to agree that 1.35 is more then enough? I've been running it on 1.4v for a month or so now, and the temps while gaming are around 45C (I do have a huge case, TT View 31, with 6 intake case fans in the front and bottom and 3 exhaust fans on top and back). Do you know if 3333 or 3466 is "safe" for our kits to be a 24/7 regular gaming setup? I could care less about bench performance, but that FPS gain on higher DRAM speeds is just insane on my ryzen system...


    Edit: Also, there is a pretty good post about OCing similar Samsung single side B-die 3200 cl 14 Flare X sticks to 3446 and beyond, (https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...ance-amp-Guide) - Do you think this giude should work on my trident z rgb as well (it is my understanding that architecture wise the flare X and TridenZ should be very similar, if not identical?)?
    Last edited by makac; 11-16-2017 at 06:04 PM. Reason: Added Edit portion

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    ROG Enthusiast Array Sigtran PC Specs
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    Yes, you can use that memory guide, it is well written and simple enough even for beginners... It doesn't matter FlareX or TridentZ or RipjawsV as long as they all have same memory Samsung b-die chips and same single rank/side architecture.

    For 3200 and 3333, 1.35V is enough, but when aiming 100% stability at 3466MHz, 1.38-1.40V might be needed. 1.40V is not a issue, there are even higher speed binned b-die's at even 4000+MHz (so basically identical chips just binned) with default 1.40 or even 1.45V, so for sure they can handle it for everyday use. BTW, do not bother, speeds above 3600MHz are (currently?) not possible with Ryzen, only with Intel. Also, 3600MHz is not achievable so often and must go with relaxed timings, so no advantage over very tight 3466MHz setting. And yes, 3333 and 3466 with suggested voltages above are perfectly safe for daily 24/7 use.

    As for initial testing, MemTest64 is fast and easy to use, however it is a new tool and not proven yet. You can also use Blend test of Prime95.
    For final memory stability testing, I would suggest using some memory testing tool, like HCI Memtest, and running like 6-7 instances of 2000kb each in parallel, with up to at least 400% coverage, maybe even 1000% over night and have 0 errors (it shall be clear to you once you use it).

    You can see my memory timings (shot from Asus MemTweakIt) and Aida result in the post above - 3466MHz and very tight (low) timings. For daily use, it seems this is best what currently can be achieved with default blck of 100MHz.

    BTW, make sure you are on BIOS with 1006 AGESA, i.e. 1403 or above...
    Last edited by Sigtran; 11-16-2017 at 07:18 PM.

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