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    Only my take.

    I reckon the C6H is worth the extra spend than Strix X370.

    Firstly from user information of Strix X370 it has PState OC missing, which I like as like to see CPU lower clock/voltage at idle. Secondly from another user share recently the Strix does not allow PCI-E GEN lowering when raising BCLK. It maybe doing it automatically like the C6H can, but the C6H also has manual control.

    From say other shares by ASUS Prime X370 Pro, this also lacks a lot of the UEFI options the C6H. So to me it seems like anything below a C6H does not have as many options.

    A UEFI to me is key in OC / tweak experience. So I'd spend the extra and get a C6H. This platform vs a Intel offering is touted as lasting in the socket since. So I also bought the C6H on that basis as envisage I will be able to use it on another iteration of Ryzen released in the future.

    IMO UEFI 9920 is best so far. I have been fortunate to use 3x R7 1700 and a 1800X with my board. Like Mean Machine early adopter. My board is pre-order at launch. I have enjoyed it thoroughly. Stability has been fantastic when OC'd. I have done hours and hours of testing with various apps. Most recent was 60hrs plus of f@h on CPU/GPU.

    UEFI 9920 contains memory presets from The Stilt for Samsung B Die SR 1DPC, my F4-3200C14D-16GTZ responds very well to them. All in all the C6H is shaping up to be a super solid mobo .

    Due to Sense MI Skew [Auto] defaulting to [Disabled] on UEFI 9920, for me in HWINFO regardless of CPU used I get spot on temps, within +/-2°C of being realistic IMO. Fan control is working spot on, I use CPU_FAN, CHA_FAN1 and CHA_FAN3. I have 4 TY-143 using the PWM of CPU_FAN via a GELID 4 in 1 cable powering them via molex. Then 1x AC F12 on CHA_FAN1 and 2x AC F9 via CHA_FAN3. I have luv'd not having a fan controller in 5.25" bays when using the M7R and C6H.
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    For me, using those presets resulted in crap - i have dual rank ram though. So not a surprise.

    Also, using TPU results in crap as well.

    Still gotta manually set a bunch of settings and the ram is unable to hit it's designated 3200mhz speed at the timings it's supposed to be set at. But at least it hits 3200mhz in a somewhat stable setup at all.

    55 min of OCCT + Linpack + avx + all cores. This results in about 155watt tdp which causes the cpu to drop to 3.7Ghz despite the 3.924Ghz it's OC'd to. 74C is the max temp it reaches. Not bad but it's certainly not the fastest 1800X out there.

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    Dual rank officially is stated as 2400MHz by AMD. So 3200MHz is ~33% above stock in context of AMD spec.

    AGESA 1.0.0.6 was highlighted as delivering "options" to allow higher speed RAM, but the "goal posts" for official support of Ryzen by AMD did not change.

    Now as far as I'm concerned ASUS have delivered board which will do OC speeds. Firmware is somewhat in the hands of AMD. AGESA not only contains CPU microcode and System Management Unit firmware but also Integrated Memory Controller firmware.

    Even on "best case" situation, single rank, 1 dimm per channel, using C6H. I was stuck on 2933MHz/3200MHz on UEFI prior to 9943 (AGESA 1.0.0.6) depending which CPU sample I used. On UEFI 9943 same CPUs/HW hit 3333MHz tight and ~3500MHz loose. So firmware is playing a big role.

    On UEFI 9920, a newly acquired 1800X has hit 3466MHz using The Stilt's preset with SOC: 1.05V and VDIMM: 1.375V. I have done ~5.5hrs of HCI Memtest (16x 850MB) with 0 errors. RAM is F4-3200C14D-16GTZ, CPU is at 3.9GHz VID: 1.4V.

    Yes tuning RAM is difficult on Ryzen for higher speed. Yes there are no presets for dual rank kits. IMO ASUS have got a lot of pro overclockers under them and using their boards. AMD also have decent overclockers involved. So I do believe as time progresses the situation should improve somewhat.
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    Your insights are much appreciated gupsterg

    I learned a lot from your thread at Overclock.net. It's really grown with interesting tips and valuable platform information. And to those who worked on stabilizing and developing a workable Bios, many thanks for a good team result. I can work a Bios but micro coding is a bit out of my league.
    For those not aware of your thread, here's the link: http://www.overclock.net/t/1625015/r...owners-info-db.
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    Glad you found the thread useful . I do update it as and when needed.

    We have gained a lot of insight from Elmor, Raja@ASUS and The Stilt, so kudos to them really, as a lot in OP of that thread is information from their posts .

    I really believe the C6H is fantastic board, there are many facets as to why I think this. I do view threads on OCN for say Taichi, K7, etc and there is no doubt in my mind the UEFI is the best on C6H. I just reckon a lot don't use the resources available to them and struggle with UEFI settings and overclocking process. There are many with such fantastic results IMO with great stability .

    Several owners I have had to explain and help via PM there. All I'm doing is reiterating what is in threads already, where they just have not used the information or understood it and then guiding them on a one to one basis.

    Have so far really enjoyed my move back to AMD rig .
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    Well, at least i know my issues in getting my system stable aren't due to my overclocking being too optimistic.

    I circumvented those segfaults when parallel building in linux by upping the voltage of the cpu under load and loosening my ram settings. No segfaults since. Still very fast with 4Ghz cpu and 3200Mhz 64GB ram. Odd considering the problem is probably software specific. I've been good since though.

    But on the other hand, I wouldn't be terribly upset to have a reason to get a threadripper. building my kernel in under a minute is almost worth eating the money i'd lose on the ryzen mobo and cpu. Not quite though.
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    Too much heat

    I have a Crosshair VI Hero, Ryzen 7 1800X with a Noctua NH-D15, and no matter what I do prime 95 gets the temp over 80c and shouts the pc down. When I had the overclock voltage Offset mode on the bios, the windows monitoring programs would only register the multiplier at 22, 2.2ghz. When I changed the voltage to auto, windows see's the multiplier correctly/ 3.8ghz, however even at the voltage set at 3.2, when benchmarking with Prime95, the temp gets over 80 and the PC shuts down. I tried overclocking with both multiplier and P-State and the same issue is happening.
    Any help on fixing this would be appreciated *

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    however even at the voltage set at 3.2
    WHAT, 3.2 V? Do you hate your CPU?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panni View Post
    WHAT, 3.2 V? Do you hate your CPU?
    I'm sorry, I meant 1.32

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkrieger View Post
    I have a Crosshair VI Hero, Ryzen 7 1800X with a Noctua NH-D15, and no matter what I do prime 95 gets the temp over 80c and shouts the pc down. When I had the overclock voltage Offset mode on the bios, the windows monitoring programs would only register the multiplier at 22, 2.2ghz. When I changed the voltage to auto, windows see's the multiplier correctly/ 3.8ghz, however even at the voltage set at 3.2, when benchmarking with Prime95, the temp gets over 80 and the PC shuts down. I tried overclocking with both multiplier and P-State and the same issue is happening.
    Any help on fixing this would be appreciated *
    I recognise your typo (3.2v instead of 1.32v).
    Heat is your nemesis bkrieger and becomes more important when using an Air cooler. The Noctua is a good air cooler however limited with an extreme processor and will limit your OC to 3.6GHz with very little headroom. As you see from my previous posts, 1.375V on the core and at 4.1GHZ is achievable with the H115i with stability and temps under load at 62-65C. max.

    P95 is a harsh tester and will push your CPU to the max without an indication of why a worker has stopped.
    Download AIDA64 to stress test the CPU,FPU and Cache and then post the results for analysis. With AIDA64 you can also test your sub systems to determine if indeed it is the CPU. List your RAM Part No to eliminate your RAM combo/size and frequency from the equation.

    Bring your Bios back to default to test the system at stock bclk and start with 1.375V on the core. Make no other changes, pstates nor offsets and let's see the results before further Bios Tweaks. Also determine your Rail voltages and temps under load. For this purpose I use HWinfo64 to check Tdie readout and rail voltages for any signs of Vdroop.

    Let's take it from there when results are in. Best is to take screenshots at the 10min during testing, then use IMIGUR to link your results.
    Please also list your full system profile including system fans, tower case, PSU and Bios version.
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