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    Quote Originally Posted by Korth View Post
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    I think it's ridiculous that few (if any) 4K TV (or other hi-res TVs) ever come with DisplayPorts. Only HDMI ports, lol, plus various USB implementations. Hoping that TV manufacturers correct this oversight soon.
    The only one I ever saw was a Panasonic which was I think in '14 and since discontinued.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiggy View Post
    Hi,

    Thank you very much.

    What is the difference between 4k video playback, and UHD Blu-Ray playback?

    Playing downloaded 4k content is 4k playback, is it not?
    The difference from HW point of view is that this time it is not about computing power. All the seemingly ridiculous conditions are here to protect the content and prevent people from ripping and stealing the movies in 4k quality. SGX and HDCP work together to ensure this.
    Your gaming rig is capable to play any unprotected video file on the world. But 4k movies from UHD BDs or Netflix require the security elements. Thus, do not buy the Pioneer drive yet, at this moment it is useless for you.
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    Will the new X299 board, and wih the SkyLake X CPUs up be UHD compatible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by triffid View Post
    The difference from HW point of view is that this time it is not about computing power. All the seemingly ridiculous conditions are here to protect the content and prevent people from ripping and stealing the movies in 4k quality. SGX and HDCP work together to ensure this.
    Your gaming rig is capable to play any unprotected video file on the world. But 4k movies from UHD BDs or Netflix require the security elements. Thus, do not buy the Pioneer drive yet, at this moment it is useless for you.
    I think, I geddit now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiggy View Post
    Will the new X299 board, and wih the SkyLake X CPUs up be UHD compatible?
    Good question. It is a high-end platform. Thus probably no graphics cores inside the CPU. If so, then also no HDMI outputs onboard. So the answer is no - until discrete GPUs learn to handle SGX. I believe the motherboards will be SGX compatible and the CPUs too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by triffid View Post
    Good question. It is a high-end platform. Thus probably no graphics cores inside the CPU. If so, then also no HDMI outputs onboard. So the answer is no - until discrete GPUs learn to handle SGX. I believe the motherboards will be SGX compatible and the CPUs too.
    Bummers.

    Maybe the new Volta chips will address that?

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    @triffid.

    I am sorry, if this sounds retarded, but if our rigs are not up to playing UHD CDs, or netflix 4K streaming then how would we go about playing 4k movies, and/or using 4k CDs to burn content?

    You talked about 4k playback? My udnerstanding this means viewing/watching 4k content not from a CD. I though this would include netflix 4k downloads.

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    I do not understand the question, I am sorry.
    I was talking about using UHD Blu-ray drives (Newegg started to sell one yesterday) in your PC to watch UHD BD movies (black boxes with UHD BD logo, not standard blue boxes).
    Then there is Netflix, Amazon and other sources of 4k movies. The quality of streamed video is significantly lower than from the UHD discs, but it is still 4k. From what I read on other forums, Netflix requirements for 4k playback are similar (Kaby Lake CPU, Win 10, Edge, possibly also SGX). As I said already, I do not have Netflix account, so I can't tell exactly.
    You can still play 4k videos. From Youtube, for example. Even your smartphone is able to record 4k videos. Internet is full of 4k movies because not all streaming services are as secure as Netflix.
    Note: There is nothing like UHD CDs, only UHD BDs. And those are not recordable, you can't burn an UHD BD...
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    Quote Originally Posted by triffid View Post
    I do not understand the question, I am sorry.
    I was talking about using UHD Blu-ray drives (Newegg started to sell one yesterday) in your PC to watch UHD BD movies (black boxes with UHD BD logo, not standard blue boxes).
    Then there is Netflix, Amazon and other sources of 4k movies. The quality of streamed video is significantly lower than from the UHD discs, but it is still 4k. From what I read on other forums, Netflix requirements for 4k playback are similar (Kaby Lake CPU, Win 10, Edge, possibly also SGX). As I said already, I do not have Netflix account, so I can't tell exactly.
    You can still play 4k videos. From Youtube, for example. Even your smartphone is able to record 4k videos. Internet is full of 4k movies because not all streaming services are as secure as Netflix.
    Note: There is nothing like UHD CDs, only UHD BDs. And those are not recordable, you can't burn an UHD BD...
    Thank you for that. When you said, 4k playback, you meant watching them on Internet like YouTube, right? The conditionscondition of Kaby Lake CPU, Win10 etc. doesn't apply, right?

    Awesome, can you show me this UHD Blu-Ray from Newsegg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiggy View Post
    Thank you for that. When you said, 4k playback, you meant watching them on Internet like YouTube, right? The conditionscondition of Kaby Lake CPU, Win10 etc. doesn't apply, right?

    Awesome, can you show me this UHD Blu-Ray from Newsegg?

    Here is the drive he was referring to. Here is an article from Jan discussing the drive and it's requirements.


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    Quote Originally Posted by triffid View Post
    Then there is Netflix, Amazon and other sources of 4k movies. The quality of streamed video is significantly lower than from the UHD discs, but it is still 4k
    is the understatement of the century. While I don't have any UHD Discs that are also being streamed in 4k from Netflix/Amazon, I have done comparisons of similar content and was amazed at the difference. The closest comparison I could make is playing a standard 1080p disc of Spectre being upscaled to 4k by the player and streaming Spectre from Amazon. The 1080p disc looked noticeably better than the 4k stream from Amazon.
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