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    Quote Originally Posted by Zka17 View Post
    Did I understand correctly that all these new CPUs will come with paste instead of soldering (underneath the IHS)?
    Yes, you understand well and for me that's disaster.
    Before 2 years I notice on Internet that some people try to explain that deliding and CPU with cheap paste are advantage.
    For me that's not for normal gamers and average overclockers pull more benefits from flux solder.
    Extreme OC maybe is even better completely without IHS, but IHS and than MX-4 or Thermal Grizzly...??? I don't know.

    If you install CPU block, waterblock, AIO and tight screws with fingers only I doubt you could damage CPU without IHS, special with limiters (some kind of CPU Guard).
    After deliding I would rather go with that option. Maybe mobo manufacturers should start to produce CPU Guard for these big processors.


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    I really don't get it why the new CPUs are using paste instead of flux... at least the very expensive ones should stick to the good old technology, even if it is more expensive...
    Very curious how these CPUs will perform! Certainly will wait and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zka17 View Post
    I really don't get it why the new CPUs are using paste instead of flux... at least the very expensive ones should stick to the good old technology, even if it is more expensive...
    Very curious how these CPUs will perform! Certainly will wait and see.

    Me to, I can say I'm little angry. But only good thing is because I doubt CPU will be capable to work something more than Turbo 3.0 frequency.
    OK CPU will go few MHz above Turbo 3.0, but I doubt more than 300-400MHz. They can't push to the last limit because stability.
    And than I would keep on 4.5GHz Turbo Boost 3.0. But I will be angry if I notice that only paste is reason why CPU can't work on 5.0GHz.
    Just a little angry... Because I smell try to delidding look as advantage of Intel. Or they are completely insane and want on that way to compensate so much lower price and that's not possible.

    Will be interesting to see what will happen with CPU Guard. Maybe he will become actual again.
    If you open CPU than better to Guard protect die and cooler gently to sit just to touch die, few grams pressure is enough, like you keep finger,
    paste will help with heat transfer and much better than put a back IHS and measure distance IHS from die, is it enough paste, glue, or there is space of air inside and than you need again.

    But Intel could be in hard position, I just notice that AMD Threadripper 16 Core/12 threads 40MB Cache, 60 PCI-E lanes will cost 849$.
    He will beat easy Intel i9-7900X in multithreaded applications, and customers who pay 1000$ for CPU don't want to think later I was wrong, I should save 150$ and on faster CPU than mine. People who pay 1000$ want best.


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    intels 18 core will set you back $2000

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkn View Post
    intels 18 core will set you back $2000
    Well, if you can wait 5 years it will be $50 on ebay.
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    My Broadwell-E is going to be dusted by these in 9 months, but will still be more than enough for the next couple years until these prices settle down and the real performers are sifted out. I just hope the Asus X299 boards will hit the market with performance that delivers all the advertising promises and more. Good boards living on the edge will go a long way to making new chip sales a big success.
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    Now 165 Watts versus 140W for today's high end, at least Broadwell-E, and maybe higher for the 10 nm class. Looks like water cooling requirements going up for extreme profiles, or higher temps under stress.
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