05-29-2017 07:43 PM - last edited on 03-05-2024 10:22 PM by ROGBot
05-29-2017 08:38 PM
05-29-2017 08:58 PM
05-29-2017 09:37 PM
entropic-remnants wrote:
Sorry to hear of your problems. Good lock moving on and I hope you find something you can use. With the incredible array of problems and broken promises on this board I'm sure you're not the only one.
MeanMachine: I think he's had enough. Sounds like he's tried a lot and your attempt to help could even be construed as insulting by some folks. Just an FYI in case you don't know how your post may come across even though I know you're just trying to help him -- especially considering the level of expertise I've seen you show you're a good resource. You just don't seem to be "asking" in that post, lol -- but actually making a demand.
05-30-2017 03:49 AM
MeanMachine wrote:
Well that's the first time I've come across as insulting but thanks for your words of Wisdom of sorts however, I can't see a demand in my post.
It's a shame that too many first time builders of this AM4 platform are giving up when expectations are not met immediately.
Sure many are frustrated atm for obviouse reason but the failures are becoming the loudest voices and that's a shame.
05-30-2017 04:56 AM
entropic-remnants wrote:
Well, read what you wrote to get what I mean. You wrote it like you were issuing orders, lol. Like I said, I know what you meant, but someone who is really frustrated might see that as barking orders at them, 'Do this, do that, update your profile..." when really all they wanted is what they paid for.
I'm keeping my board and RGB aside I like the build quality and love how cool the VRM runs for instance at full load during stress tests -- very well designed in many ways.
But, this is a consumer product and if you go read the Crosshair VI page here: https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VI-HERO/overview/
So, reading that, is that what we've bought? Not yet, not by a long shot. It's premium priced and NOWHERE on that page does it say, "Oh, you're buying something that isn't finished, doesn't work as advertised, and there's no guarantee when it will do so."
It should not be a REQUIREMENT to be a dedicated technical expert to buy and use a modern mobo. If this guy is sick of the work involved I say go for it, return it. He paid his money and did not get what Asus promised. How long is one required to wait before getting one's money back?
This board should have been much more discounted or the marketing should have told the truth. Bottom line: Asus has lied and still lies about this board as you buy it. There's no other way to see it. It may not be a malicious thing, no -- but it is still the truth.
And that's why someone dropping in an saying, "Post this, do that" without so much as an offer to help (you didn't offer and ask him if he wanted help you just started telling him what to do) -- could be taken the wrong way.
If you don't understand how people could feel about this, then fine, but you should consider that not everyone WANTS to be challenged by this board and gets off making it work. Some people want to buy something that works and use it and that's what Asus said, and still says, this board is unless you go tunnel down here or at overclock.net or whatever. That should NOT be necessary on a top end product.
ASUS: PUT A DISCLAIMER ON YOUR PAGES. Otherwise you deserve the pain of refunding every unsatisfied buyer. As long as you promise to deliver something that isn't that OUT OF THE BOX, you're in the wrong.
05-31-2017 03:18 AM
entropic-remnants wrote:
Well, read what you wrote to get what I mean. You wrote it like you were issuing orders, lol. Like I said, I know what you meant, but someone who is really frustrated might see that as barking orders at them, 'Do this, do that, update your profile..." when really all they wanted is what they paid for.
I'm keeping my board and RGB aside I like the build quality and love how cool the VRM runs for instance at full load during stress tests -- very well designed in many ways.
But, this is a consumer product and if you go read the Crosshair VI page here: https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VI-HERO/overview/
So, reading that, is that what we've bought? Not yet, not by a long shot. It's premium priced and NOWHERE on that page does it say, "Oh, you're buying something that isn't finished, doesn't work as advertised, and there's no guarantee when it will do so."
It should not be a REQUIREMENT to be a dedicated technical expert to buy and use a modern mobo. If this guy is sick of the work involved I say go for it, return it. He paid his money and did not get what Asus promised. How long is one required to wait before getting one's money back?
This board should have been much more discounted or the marketing should have told the truth. Bottom line: Asus has lied and still lies about this board as you buy it. There's no other way to see it. It may not be a malicious thing, no -- but it is still the truth.
And that's why someone dropping in an saying, "Post this, do that" without so much as an offer to help (you didn't offer and ask him if he wanted help you just started telling him what to do) -- could be taken the wrong way.
If you don't understand how people could feel about this, then fine, but you should consider that not everyone WANTS to be challenged by this board and gets off making it work. Some people want to buy something that works and use it and that's what Asus said, and still says, this board is unless you go tunnel down here or at overclock.net or whatever. That should NOT be necessary on a top end product.
ASUS: PUT A DISCLAIMER ON YOUR PAGES. Otherwise you deserve the pain of refunding every unsatisfied buyer. As long as you promise to deliver something that isn't that OUT OF THE BOX, you're in the wrong.
05-31-2017 05:57 AM
05-31-2017 06:39 PM
entropic-remnants wrote:
Well, read what you wrote to get what I mean. You wrote it like you were issuing orders, lol. Like I said, I know what you meant, but someone who is really frustrated might see that as barking orders at them, 'Do this, do that, update your profile..." when really all they wanted is what they paid for.
I'm keeping my board and RGB aside I like the build quality and love how cool the VRM runs for instance at full load during stress tests -- very well designed in many ways.
But, this is a consumer product and if you go read the Crosshair VI page here: https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VI-HERO/overview/
So, reading that, is that what we've bought? Not yet, not by a long shot. It's premium priced and NOWHERE on that page does it say, "Oh, you're buying something that isn't finished, doesn't work as advertised, and there's no guarantee when it will do so."
It should not be a REQUIREMENT to be a dedicated technical expert to buy and use a modern mobo. If this guy is sick of the work involved I say go for it, return it. He paid his money and did not get what Asus promised. How long is one required to wait before getting one's money back?
This board should have been much more discounted or the marketing should have told the truth. Bottom line: Asus has lied and still lies about this board as you buy it. There's no other way to see it. It may not be a malicious thing, no -- but it is still the truth.
And that's why someone dropping in an saying, "Post this, do that" without so much as an offer to help (you didn't offer and ask him if he wanted help you just started telling him what to do) -- could be taken the wrong way.
If you don't understand how people could feel about this, then fine, but you should consider that not everyone WANTS to be challenged by this board and gets off making it work. Some people want to buy something that works and use it and that's what Asus said, and still says, this board is unless you go tunnel down here or at overclock.net or whatever. That should NOT be necessary on a top end product.
ASUS: PUT A DISCLAIMER ON YOUR PAGES. Otherwise you deserve the pain of refunding every unsatisfied buyer. As long as you promise to deliver something that isn't that OUT OF THE BOX, you're in the wrong.
05-31-2017 08:12 PM
jbasemoine wrote:
Uuhm just out of curiosity what exactly is asus not providing with this mother board, or better said what promises did they not give us when buying this mobo ?
I have read the page of the mobo multiple time by now but i can't see what asus did not deliver but did promise, to me i seems all they have promised is there, so i'm quite curios what's not there !?