Rampage VI Extreme (LGA2066, Intel X299) - info, experience, BIOSes etc.

[BroPhilip]

I just saw this it appears to be New Zealand.... with a release date of the 23rd.

[iBruceypoo]

Yea, this happens every ROG launch, here's one from Norway estimating 9 peices on August 24th. All this means is the vendors have them on order and are waiting and hoping just like the rest of us.

https://www.komplett.no/product/9451...e-socket-2066#

And every ROG board launch a few enthusiasts pre-order FIRST from ShopBaconLettuceTomato.com and end up getting their boards dead LAST.

ShopBLT. accepts preorders long before anyone else, but Newegg and Amazon will get their shipping containers first (in North America) and ship out and you will still be waiting for your BLT to arrive. Usually BLT orders are cancelled and Newegg orders placed when this begins to happen.

But it still makes folks feel really good to have that preorder in place, so go ahead and preorder/cancel/reorder, at least the busyness relieves some anxiety while waiting.

IF you want to search for every little tidbit of new info or global availability for the R6E, and that seems to be the overriding nuance of this thread, Google Rampage VI Extreme and in Google tools select "past 24hours". That should keep you satiated with new clues and hypothetical timeframes and on the very edge of your ROG seat all week long.

The most reliable measure of availability I have found is what JJ told us way back in July 2012, my first ROG launch when I was so nooby and easily persuadable, ahh those were the days. JJ said as soon as you see the motherboard support pages go up and are complete at Asus.com/US, then you should be able to order in North America within 5 to 10days. So far JJ has always been right. I really like JJ.

Then you store the Amazon and Newegg pages in bookmarks and keep F5ing both pages every three hours until the R6E suddenly appears 'in stock"... then select overnight shipping.

Works every time...

[DragonPurr]

Then you store the Amazon and Newegg pages in bookmarks and keep F5ing both pages every three hours until the R6E suddenly appears 'in stock"... then select overnight shipping.

Works every time...

Meh... obsessively F5ing to monitor a Web page is soooooo 20th-century. There are various browser plugins and add-ons that let you automatically monitor changes in Web pages for purposes such as seeing when products or concert tickets go on sale, or for monitoring price changes of existing products (like a basic version of camelcamelcamel that only tracks Amazon's prices). You can even wire these browser plugins to email you when the Web page changes.

For a far more robust and automated solution, you can create your own automated script that runs as a Windows scheduled task or UNIX cron job. I just run a Python script in the background that randomly polls targeted Web pages every 5 to 20 minutes. The randomizer is used so sites like Amazon do not realize that you are a robot and block your IP address :-) But Amazon would really only block you if you start to poll their Web pages every 5 to 10 seconds. I also randomly use a different HTTP User-Agent with each polling to make it look less repetitive. A simple `wget` script to download a Web page and parse the HTML works. Or for the best Web monitoring, write a Python, Ruby, or Perl script using the Mechanize package/gem/module:

https://pypi.python.org/pypi/mechanize/
https://rubygems.org/gems/mechanize/versions/2.7.5
http://search.cpan.org/~oalders/WWW-...W/Mechanize.pm

use BeautifulSoup in Python to extract the keywords you are looking for:

https://www.crummy.com/software/BeautifulSoup/bs4/doc/

have the script sleep and poll the targeted Web pages every random 5 to 20 minutes, and have the script phone, text, and/or email you alerts. You never have to F5 again. For Newegg and some other retail sites, you can also have the script check the total number of each product Newegg has in stock. Automating this is really quite easy if you know a scripting language. Mechanize and BeautifulSoup handle much of the technical details for you. I have my little Python script also set up to pop up a Windows wscript-MsgBox VBScript window alert that says "Product_Name - URL_address" when the targeted Web page has been updated.

Peter now shows off his G.Skill RGB RAM with his unboxed R6E in the background. Ahh, the joys of being a sponsored modder. For VRM heatsinkaholics, his photo cuts off the heatsink:

https://twitter.com/l3pje/status/897482976333897728
https://www.instagram.com/p/BX0ffTrABLM/

[iBruceypoo]

Meh... obsessively F5ing to monitor a Web page is soooooo 20th-century. There are various browser plugins and add-ons that let you automatically monitor changes in Web pages for purposes such as seeing when products or concert tickets go on sale, or for monitoring price changes of existing products (like a basic version of camelcamelcamel that only tracks Amazon's prices). You can even wire these browser plugins to email you when the Web page changes.

For a far more robust and automated solution, you can create your own automated script that runs as a Windows scheduled task or UNIX cron job. I just run a Python script in the background that randomly polls targeted Web pages every 5 to 20 minutes. The randomizer is used so sites like Amazon do not realize that you are a robot and block your IP address :-) I also randomly use a different HTTP User-Agent with each polling to make it look less repetitive. A simple `wget` script to download a Web page and parse the HTML works. Or for the best Web monitoring, write a Python, Ruby, or Perl script using the Mechanize package/gem/module:

https://pypi.python.org/pypi/mechanize/
https://rubygems.org/gems/mechanize/versions/2.7.5
http://search.cpan.org/~oalders/WWW-...W/Mechanize.pm

have the script sleep and poll the targeted Web pages every random 5 to 20 minutes, parse the keywords, and have the script phone, text, and/or email you alerts. You never have to F5 again. For Newegg and some other retail sites, you can also have the script check the total number of each product Newegg has in stock. This exercise is left for the reader but it is really quite easy if you know a scripting language.

Peter now shows off his G.Skill RGB RAM with his unboxed R6E in the background. Ahh, the joys of being a sponsored modder. For VRM heatsinkaholics, his photo cuts off the heatsink:

https://twitter.com/l3pje/status/897482976333897728
https://www.instagram.com/p/BX0ffTrABLM/

NICE. That R6E is Gorgeous.

Anyone looking for super-efficient silicon, SL posted a batch of newly binned and delidded 7820Xs overnight.

Already sold out of the 4.8GHz and 4.9GHz, some 4.7s and 4.6s still in stock.

I've got two absolutely brilliant binned delidded CPUs from this guy, would never play the real silicon lottery ever again.

Picking up a 7820X as soon as, and an 8700K for a Maximus 10 Extreme board later this year. OR it may be called the Maximus 11 Extreme, not sure if ROG is planning to produce a Kaby Lake Refresh Z370 and a Cannon Lake Z390 Maximus Extreme board for each chipset.

Here's the link for the SiliconLottery binned delidded CPUs:

https://siliconlottery.com/collections/all

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Also, received an answer from Intel about the Optane Memory using 2 drives as very fast SSDs in a RAID 0 array on the ROG DIMM.2 riser card.

quoting Intel

Hello iBruce,

We would like to let you know that in case you would like to use the Intel® Optane™ Module as standalone SSDs, you should have no issues creating a RAID setup and booting from them. The only thing that you need to check with Asus* is if by using the Dimm.2 Rise card the system can setup the RAID since we have seen cases with motherboards having dual M.2 slots and being able to accomplish this goal.

We encourage you to contact Asus* and ask for this before giving it a try.

Regards,
Nestor C

end quote

I think that's a yes, I really hope it is, I tried to RAID 0 2 Optane Memory M.2 SSDs on my R5E10 X99 board and was unsuccessful, the bios only recognized a single 32GB Optane drive.

Maybe the RajMan can give us more information and elucidate further into this quandary.

[Mavtop]

That R6E is Gorgeous.

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Also, received an answer from Intel about the Optane Memory using 2 drives as very fast SSDs in a RAID 0 array on the ROG DIMM.2 riser card.

quoting Intel

Hello iBruce,

We would like to let you know that in case you would like to use the Intel® Optane™ Module as standalone SSDs, you should have no issues creating a RAID setup and booting from them. The only thing that you need to check with Asus* is if by using the Dimm.2 Rise card the system can setup the RAID since we have seen cases with motherboards having dual M.2 slots and being able to accomplish this goal.

We encourage you to contact Asus* and ask for this before giving it a try.

Regards,
Nestor C

end quote

I think that's a yes, I really hope it is, I tried to RAID 0 2 Optane Memory M.2 SSDs on my R5E10 X99 board and was unsuccessful, the bios only recognized a single 32GB Optane drive.

Maybe the RajMan can give us more information and elucidate further into this quandary.

Man am I glad you asked Intel, I'm planning on making a VROC optane raid array to boot from (or hope to boot from). Otherwise I will probably just wait on the big Optane drive and see how it scales. Kind of hard to get faster than 960 pros in raid 0, but I'm hoping optane in raid 0 might just be able to be a little smoother.

Almost there guys!

[Brighttail]

NICE. That R6E is Gorgeous.

Anyone looking for super-efficient silicon, SL posted a batch of newly binned and delidded 7820Xs overnight.

Already sold out of the 4.8GHz and 4.9GHz, some 4.7s and 4.6s still in stock.

I've got two absolutely brilliant binned delidded CPUs from this guy, would never play the real silicon lottery ever again.

Picking up a 7820X as soon as, and an 8700K for a Maximus 10 Extreme board later this year. OR it may be called the Maximus 11 Extreme, not sure if ROG is planning to produce a Kaby Lake Refresh Z370 and a Cannon Lake Z390 Maximus Extreme board for each chipset.

Here's the link for the SiliconLottery binned delidded CPUs:

https://siliconlottery.com/collections/all

I thought I read that you ahve to setup the RAID through the chipset (ie windows) raid. If you are trying to make a bootable disk you may have to go into the windows installation, load IRST drivers and find them that way to create and create the RAID Then.

Delidding the CPU.. what a business. A one year warranty on something that they void the warranty if Intel learns it has been delidded. Also depending on the paste they use to reapply you may have to delid it in a year or so. It is nice that you can get a CPU that is guaranteed to run up to what you pay for. I'd be all afraid of the warranty.

[DragonPurr]

Delidding the CPU.. what a business. A one year warranty on something that they void the warranty if Intel learns it has been delidded. Also depending on the paste they use to reapply you may have to delid it in a year or so. It is nice that you can get a CPU that is guaranteed to run up to what you pay for. I'd be all afraid of the warranty.

I fully agree. I would consider buying a SL binned CPU myself if they matched the 3-year standard warranty that Intel has for their CPUs. But the combination of the 1-year warranty and the substantial price increase is actually not that great of a deal.

Example: SL sells their fastest 4.9 GHz 7820X for $929.99. For $70 more, you can get a i9-7900X with a 3-year Intel warranty instead of SL's 1-year, two more cores, 44 PCIe lanes instead of 28, and a dedicated AVX-512 fused multiply-add (FMA) unit that is only on the i9 CPUs. If you use a mobo with good power delivery, like the R6E or R6A, and a good AIO liquid cooler or even the twin-fan twin-tower Noctua NH-D15 air cooler (which is the current king of air coolers), you can very likely overclock an unbinned i9-7900X to at least 4.5 GHz. And if your mainly use multi-core applications, a 4.5 GHz 7900X is faster than a 4.9 7820X. If you use a good custom loop, and have either a monoblocked CPU/VRM cooling or CPU-waterblock with top intake fans blowing on the VRM area, I think your odds reaching 4.6 or 4.7 GHz are pretty good, especially at 4.6 GHz where many people have already reached on all cores with comfortable thermals and no throttling. That makes a unmodified 7900X even faster than the SL $929.99 7280X, and it negates the need to spend an extra $190 for the SL-binned 4.6 GHz 7900X. The 7820X hits the wall at 4.9 GHz and the 7900X hits the wall sooner at 4.8 GHz mainly due to its AVX-512 FMA unit, just like Ryzen/Threadripper hits the wall at 4.1 GHz. So you are really only dealing with silicon lottery luck if you are hoping for an overclock of 4.8 to 5.0 GHz, just as you have to be really lucky to OC Ryzen/Threadripper to 4.2 GHz. SL knows this and they charge a hefty 50% more for their $1480 4.8 GHz 7900X. So you are paying $480 more for 100 or 200 MHz of overclock since your odds of OCing any unbinned 7900X to 4.6 GHz are quite good. I can think of many better ways to spend $480 than on a 7900X with a 2% to 4% better overclock and a 1-year warranty. And at its $599.99 MSRP, the i7-7820X offers the best value out of all the five currently available X-series CPUs. But by charging $929.99 for a 4.9 GHz 7820X, SL has made it considerably overpriced, while only giving you a 1-year warranty too.

As for trying to return a delidded CPU to Intel for an exchange after SL's 1-year warranty has expired, I am absolutely certain that Intel has ways to quickly find out if their CPUs have been delidded. People started delidding Intel's CPUs 4+ years ago when Intel started using paste on Ivy Bridge. And I am quite sure that various people have messed it up and tried to get a warranty replacement. Your odds of Intel not noticing a delidded CPU were far better back in 2013 when it was still a new practice. But not now.

[DragonPurr]

NOTE TO RAJA:

The online PDF for the R6E Quick Start Guide still shows the M.2 vertical mounting bracket that was used on their X99 mobos, and not the DIMM.2 riser card used on the R6E:

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/...ME_QSG_WEB.pdf

I don't know if the printed Quick Start Guide that Asus will include inside the box also shows the same wrong information, but that could be very confusing to people, and both the online PDF and printed QSG should be corrected. People are going to see that diagram and wonder how it fits together. But if reprinting corrected Quick Start Guides will delay the R6E release yet again, please don't reprint them!!!!

[Feklar]

"But if reprinting corrected Quick Start Guides will delay the R6E release yet again, please don't reprint them!!!!"
That was funny. Seriously though, I think most users that spend the amount of money that this motherboard costs (not including CPU cost) are probably not going to need a quick start guide. At least I hope not. If they do though, they're most likely in over their head.

[DragonPurr]

"But if reprinting corrected Quick Start Guides will delay the R6E release yet again, please don't reprint them!!!!"
That was funny. Seriously though, I think most users that spend the amount of money that this motherboard costs (not including CPU cost) are probably not going to need a quick start guide. At least I hope not. If they do though, they're most likely in over their head.

Hey, don't laugh too hard. All of you are going to hate me for mentioning the QSG error if Raja replies, "The R6E product manager really wants this to be a perfect product launch, and he has decided to reprint the QSG and repackage the boxes." And then I and everyone else will shout out a collective, "Nooooooooooooo...!!!!!"

I am surprised that no one noticed the wrong M.2 mounting diagram on the QSG. Anyone who has a general familiarity with the mobo should have noticed that it is wrong with a quick visual scan of the diagrams. What is odd about the error is that if you look at the "Motherboard Layout" diagram on the QSG, "Step 4" correctly points to the on-board M.2 and SATA ports. But the person who annotated the diagram could not figure out how the vertical M.2 bracket fits onto the motherboard, so the person just ignored it without asking someone. So there is no "Step #" that points to the DIMM.2 slot on the "Motherboard Layout" diagram.

It costs money to reprint all those QSGs. So Asus should just ship them like that, right Raja?