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    On another note:
    https://nl.hardware.info/reviews/757...-x299-paradijs

    Anyone an idea why the extreme performs bad in their review or am I missing something(besides the low end test system)...

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    Bad news from EK... this is the response I got when I asked about the new monoblock with zero mention of the 10G chip;

    "Thank you for contacting us.
    The monoblock X299 Rampage 6 is designed to water cool all the most important spots on the motherboard like MOSFET and CPU. However, the stock heatsink as seen in manuals has to be removed in order to place the monoblock on the motherboard and everything should work as designed to. If you follow the manuals for our water block, there is nothing to be afraid of destroying anything or so. just stick to our manuals and it should be perfectly fine.

    Best regards, Ales "

    So since their manual says NOTHING about the 10G chip, my assumption is that they believe it doesn't need to be cooled and no heatsink will be provided. Now he may be saying that the manual will be update, but honestly I'm not so sure. I responded to him that Asus has told all of us that the 10 G chip MUST be cooled and that Asus informed EK of this. So if EK provides a monoblock with zero warning/mention about this chip, I suspect they may be on the hook for replacing/repairing motherboards....
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    If anyone wants $100 off a 7980XE check out this website I found. Already ordered mine. http://www.provantage.com/intel-bx80...x~7ITEP5WU.htm

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    Overclockers.co.uk has the R6E in stock today, hurry up before they're gone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by red773 View Post
    Did anyone see if the HCC i9s were avalible earlier today? When I checked out NewEgg everything higher than the 7920X was already out of stock.
    Been seeing them listed for past 10 hours and was out of stock since it was listed. I think they will be a quick sell out once they go live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brighttail View Post
    Bad news from EK... this is the response I got when I asked about the new monoblock with zero mention of the 10G chip;

    "Thank you for contacting us.
    The monoblock X299 Rampage 6 is designed to water cool all the most important spots on the motherboard like MOSFET and CPU. However, the stock heatsink as seen in manuals has to be removed in order to place the monoblock on the motherboard and everything should work as designed to. If you follow the manuals for our water block, there is nothing to be afraid of destroying anything or so. just stick to our manuals and it should be perfectly fine.

    Best regards, Ales "

    So since their manual says NOTHING about the 10G chip, my assumption is that they believe it doesn't need to be cooled and no heatsink will be provided. Now he may be saying that the manual will be update, but honestly I'm not so sure. I responded to him that Asus has told all of us that the 10 G chip MUST be cooled and that Asus informed EK of this. So if EK provides a monoblock with zero warning/mention about this chip, I suspect they may be on the hook for replacing/repairing motherboards....
    EK changed their shipping date from this week to next so something has caused them to delay the shipping by a week but their installation manual has not changed at all and still does not say anything about the 10G chip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by red773 View Post
    Did anyone see if the HCC i9s were avalible earlier today? When I checked out NewEgg everything higher than the 7920X was already out of stock.
    Newegg has not made the 7940X/7960X/7980XE available for purchase today. I know, because I run various Python Web-scraping scripts to monitor changes in prices and in-stock status in various U.S. stores for products that I'm looking for, and my scripts sample each site every 1 to 3 minutes around the clock. About 45 or 50 minutes ago, Newegg added the [Back Order] button for these three CPUs and I placed my back-order for the 7940X. You should probably hurry up and get in line if you want these because the earlier HCC CPU shipments will be smaller in size. One Newegg product manager told me three small shipments are coming in for the 7940X. I am waiting on replies from several other Newegg managers. Current expected U.S. availability date is likely one to three weeks from now for the 7940X and 7960X, and two to four weeks for the 7980XE.

    As I mentioned in my reply to AlexPeterson earlier in this thread, the 7980XE is a HUGE waste of money for at least 95% of the people likely reading this thread. Unless you are running highly scientific software that is specifically designed to run on Xeon E5 and E7 mega-core CPUs, or unless you are writing your own compute-intensive code that uses 36 threads, software for gaming or the processing of videos, photos, audio, financial data, etc, etc, will run just as fast on a CPU with 10 to 14 cores, or in some cases will run even faster than the 7980XE. Some of today's released reviews of the 7980XE also demonstrate that, and even with synthetic benchmarks using optimized multi-core code, the 7980XE is not even always the fastest Intel non-Xeon CPU.

    Edited to add: And if you are an engineer or scientist wanting to run highly-mega-threaded scientific software, I would wait until later this year when the C422 chipset mobos start coming out, and get the 18-core W-2195 Xeon-W CPU, because it has two AVX-512 units on it, compared to just one on the 7980XE, along with ECC and huge memory support, and 48 PCIe lanes, instead of 44 on the 7980XE.
    Last edited by DragonPurr; 09-25-2017 at 08:35 PM.

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    Hey Dragon have you found a way to cool your R6E 10G chip that you are comfy with? You said it came with two screws. Do those screws hold a heatsink plate on top of it in which the heat pipe passed over it or did the screws hold the heat pipe in place? With EK being dodge about this whole thing I'm curious as to your thoughts since you have had some time with your boards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brighttail View Post
    EK changed their shipping date from this week to next so something has caused them to delay the shipping by a week but their installation manual has not changed at all and still does not say anything about the 10G chip.
    When I placed my EK pre-order for three R6E clear-nickel monoblocks last Monday when they first listed the product, their expected ship date was listed as Sep 25. But last Wednesday, two days later, the date slid to Oct 2. It could still be delayed until next week due to some design or supply issue, but my order also could still ship this week without any problems.

    EK frequently slides their expected ship dates all the time, even for existing popular products that sell out regularly. I think that they run a very lean operation with low overhead. So their main building with 45 to 50 employees makes each item on an as-needed basis without keeping lots of pre-made items sitting there. They also outsource all the CNC machining/milling of their waterblock parts, and then the waterblocks are assembled by several employees, mainly women, in one room. That is why you also sometimes see EK products listed with a "Ready For Assembly" status, which means it is not ready-to-ship, but there is a slight delay for them to assemble the item using parts they already have in-house.

    So the ship date sliding from Sep 25 to Oct 2 could mean that they are delaying the R6E monoblock release for some reason. But it could also mean that their initial pre-orders are keeping their small assembly room busy for this week, and all orders that were pre-ordered later into last week will be shipped out next week, again because their waterblock assembly staff does not have dozens of people.
    Last edited by DragonPurr; 09-25-2017 at 11:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exzelsior View Post
    On another note:
    https://nl.hardware.info/reviews/757...-x299-paradijs

    Anyone an idea why the extreme performs bad in their review or am I missing something(besides the low end test system)...
    It does not surprise me that the Dutch review also shows the $350 MSI X299 Pro Carbon beating out the R6E and most other Asus and Gigabyte X299 mobos. I mentioned to someone in the Apex thread that the MSI X299 Pro Carbon, M7, and XPower mobos all use more power and tend to run warmer in CPU and VRM temps than other brands of mobos. But MSI's approach to tuning those three mobos often lead to improvements in various CPU, memory bandwidth, and system benchmarks:

    https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post672855

    I was originally considering either the R6E or MSI X299 XPower Gaming because the XPower has 10 SATA ports, and you can still use 9 of those SATA ports while using all three on-board M.2 slots. But as I mentioned in a previous post, I chose the R6E due to aesthetics being the top 3 of my top 5 reasons for using the mobo, and I am adding additional glass plating and glass overlays onto my three R6E mobos. But if the R6E had looked very similar to the Apex, I would have likely purchased three MSI X299 XPower mobos instead.

    I previously did a MSI X299 Pro Carbon build for a friend using a 7900X back in June, but she wanted me to add glass overlays onto it, so I have had one Pro Carbon and three R6E mobos laid out on an anti-static mat since last week.

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