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Thread: ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING issues
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05-25-2018 02:11 PM #961
Fredy M PC Specs Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming WIFI Processor Ryzen 7 5900x Memory (part number) G.Skill F4-4000C16D-32GTZRA Graphics Card #1 ASUS Strix GTX 1080 A8G Monitor Dell S2721DGF Storage #1 Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250GB Storage #2 Samsung 860 Evo 1TB CPU Cooler EK-Aio Basic 360 Case Phanteks P400A Power Supply Superflower Leadex II Gold 650W OS Windows 10 Pro 21H2
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05-26-2018 10:25 AM #962
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Hey community,
I have an issue with my two slightly different memory kits in this MOBO, I'm using CMK8GX4M2B3000C15 and CMK8GX4M2B3000C15R where the only difference is the color (its a 2x4gb 3000mhz cl15 kit twice, making 4x4gb), both of them are VER 5.20 Extra spec info: PSU - FSP Hexa+ 500 | GPU - GTX 1060.
So, the problem is when I use only 2 dimms from the same color It's working fine at 2933mhz, and when I mix 1 red and 1 black it boots for the third time trying and works after that, but when I use all 4, I can't boot into bios with 2933mhz, It's resetting to 2133 and when I boot into windows the system is unstable even with 2133 defaults, getting BSOD-s, system hangs, hardware failure.
So what I tried so far:
- Update bios | Downgrade bios | Modded bios and everything listed below with all bios versions
- Manually set the timings to 15-17-17-17-35 (extra 17 is because my mobo)
- Manually set DRAM Voltage to 1.350
- Try to fiddle with VPP_MEM Voltage
- Increasing VTDDR Voltage
- SoC voltage at 1.1v
- ProcODT at 60ohm
- CMD at 2T
- CLDO_VDDP at 965 - 975
- Memory interleaving mode channel
- Loosen timings to 16-18-18-18-40
- Increase DRAM Voltage to 1.380v to 1.400v
- Fiddle with other timings not being set by D.O.C.P. but being able to read out from SPD
- CPU LLC and SOC LLC tried from regular to extreme
- Try other frequencies like 2800mhz, It boots up but Is unstable in everything, just like the default 2133mhz
- Ran memtest with all of them individually, no problems
Any ideas what else can I do to make this even stable at least at 2133mhz?
Or is this some other issue.
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05-26-2018 12:20 PM #963
AniChatt PC Specs Laptop (Model) ThinkPad X270 i7 7500U Motherboard Asus Strix X470-F BIOS 5843 Processor R5 5600X Stock Memory (part number) FlareX 3200MHz 2x8GB Graphics Card #1 Gigabyte Aorus GTX 1080 Monitor BenQ EW2480 Storage #1 960EVO NVMe 250GB Storage #2 MX500 SATA 500GB CPU Cooler Corsair H115i Case NZXT S340 Razer Power Supply Seasonic Prime 850W Gold Keyboard Corsair Strafe RGB Mouse Corsair Harpoon OS Windows 10 20H2
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05-26-2018 12:45 PM #964
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Already done, current one seems stable enough right now, no BSOD for an hour, but I cant say for sure, maybe a cold boot and It's unstable again.
Now it's like this DIMM1: A1 DIMM2: B1 DiMM3: B2: DIMM4: A2.
Currently this is the setting:
Applied Optimized defaults
mem freq 2800mhz
DRAM voltage 1.380v
timings loosen to 16-18-18-18-40-60
CMD 1T
ProcODT 48ohm
VTDDR increased
SoC voltage 1.1v
Also a new information is that the ram version 5.20 is bad for ryzen, and I should get a version at least 5.30, can someone confirm this?
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05-26-2018 01:02 PM #965
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05-26-2018 02:30 PM #966
Equinox187 PC Specs Motherboard ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING Processor Ryzen 3600 Memory (part number) KLEVV BOLT X 32GB 3600 MHz Graphics Card #1 Zotac GTX 1070 Storage #1 Viper VPN100 512GB nvme CPU Cooler Custom Water Loop Power Supply EVGA 650w Gold Modular OS Windows 11 Pro 64bit
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4 stick memory configs suck for ryzen more so when they are dual rank ram, the ram you have chosen is dual rank this means that in a 4 dimm system it really is only designed to work at 1866MHz, I have seen some squeese more with some work but not a whole lot more if i where you i would reset to optomised defaults then leave everything as default then manually set the clock to 1866MHz and then boot and test stability and if stable then start stepping up MHz untill it crashes then step up voltage, but i suspect you will not get far as 4 dimm dual rank suck for high speed ram. I kinda hate to say it it would have been better and cheaper if you had bought a set of 2 8gig sticks.
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05-26-2018 03:13 PM #967
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05-26-2018 04:33 PM #968
Equinox187 PC Specs Motherboard ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING Processor Ryzen 3600 Memory (part number) KLEVV BOLT X 32GB 3600 MHz Graphics Card #1 Zotac GTX 1070 Storage #1 Viper VPN100 512GB nvme CPU Cooler Custom Water Loop Power Supply EVGA 650w Gold Modular OS Windows 11 Pro 64bit
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I would check all of them to make sure as the reason i said that is my friend had the same red ram as you but his was dual rank and the second kit he later got was single rank, same model numbers etc but different batch yet not the same. In any case overclock speed is something you will not always get espesually in a 4 dimm setup so i would still reset to default and down clock to 1866 and test from there.
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05-26-2018 04:54 PM #969
celab PC Specs Motherboard Strix B550-F Gaming / BIOS 2806 Processor Ryzen 3600 @stock speed Memory (part number) FlareX - F4-3200C14D-16GFX @XMP Timings Graphics Card #1 Palit GameRock Premium 1080 @stock speed/cooling; 496.49 Drv. Sound Card Onboard Monitor Acer Predator - XB241H Storage #1 Seagate FireCuda 530 / 500GB NVME 1.4 Storage #2 Kingston ssd CPU Cooler Be Quiet - DarkRock 4 Case freestyle Power Supply Thermaltake Toughpower Grand RGB 850W Gold Keyboard Razer Chroma Light Mouse Razer DeathAdder V2 Mouse Pad Razer Goliathus Medium CONTROL Headset/Speakers Sennheiser HD 4.20s OS Win11 Pro 64bit / latest Network Router Fibre Optic 600Mbit (sync.)
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05-26-2018 05:33 PM #970
BtheNewB PC Specs Motherboard Strix B350F Gaming BIOS5603 Processor Ryzen 5-3600 Memory (part number) Corsair CMK16GX 4M2E16C Graphics Card #1 Sapphire Pulse RX580 8GB Monitor Sony Bravia 32" Storage #1 Crucial CT275MX300 Storage #2 Corsair Neutron SSD CPU Cooler Arctic Freezer 13 CO Case CM690 Power Supply Seasonic M12 750W Keyboard Sun Microsystems Mouse Redragon Mammoth Headset Sennheiser Game Zero OS Win10 Accessory #1 some more spinner HDDs
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So we can agree that you do not have a matched 4X4 kit. That being critical most of the time.
Manufacturers make up matched kits for a reason. These matched kits ensure that the same batch of memory chips are at play on all the modules. These batches of mem chips are sourced from a chip manufacturer and have a very high probability of being identical.
Just like we all know about CPU lotteries when it comes to OC, the same applies with the memory lottery where you see the same part number but the batches are not the same and the results are a lottery. It may work but chances are it won't.
The only way to ascertain what your possible max OC will be with 4 mem slots filled is to test with a 4 X 4 matched memory kit.
Thats unfortunately the reality of the memory OC game.