ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING issues

[hazium233]

Hi,

Is it actually possible to over clock memory past 3200mhz on this board?

My very capable micron e ram is not stable past 3200mhz no matter what I do with my 2700.

Possibly. I have seen some results at 3333MT/s and 3466MT/s with this board. But since they are not mine I can't tell you if they were truly stable. I am probably going to try to stabilize my Rev D at 3466 or higher soon, but I have a 1600 and who knows.

Micron Rev E will have variable quality like anything else. You haven't happened to test it on a different board or with a different cpu have you? I know that is usually not practical. What is the part number for the IC? How much ram are we talking about here?

What combinations of termination resistances did you try? How much SOC and ram voltage were you attempting?

For the most part, there are some generalities you can probably make about the 8Gbit Micron revisions, which are that RCDRD can't be very tight, and doesn't really like to budge even with a lot of ram voltage. The other is that RFC probably won't be all that tight, certainly nowhere near as low as on Samsung B. >300ns is probably a place to start (350ns factory).

If you are using a current version of the DRAM calculator, it has gone a little overboard with the profiles as well. In the 1.5 calc, Rev E @ 3466MT/s with the "safe" profile recommended RCDRD of 22 and vdimm of 1.39v. RFC was >310ns.

One other thing about the calculator is that I think RAS output can be way low. Window is supposed to be RCDRD+CAS+RTP. That's RTP, not RP. At some point when you get away from this, the imc will start substituting values which may make it stable, or it may just be unstable. The absolute minimum to complete a read should be RCDRD+CAS+4.

[gregor951]

Hi all,
Just thought i would share that I had a good outcome upgrading to the ryzen 3600 on the B350f, using the latest 5008 bios version. My HyperX memory looks happy at its rated 3200MHz.
My old settings wouldnt post, so in the bios I selected the 'reset to optimised defaults' and then worked up through the dram drop down speeds with everything else left on 'Auto'. So the dram is running on 1.2v rather than the 1.35 I had it on with my previous 2400G cpu.
thanks for all the useful info here, cheers. ROG cpu-z info below.

Processor (CPU)
CPU Name AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor
Threading 1 CPU - 6 Core - 12 Threads
Frequency 3892.11 MHz (39 * 99.8 MHz) - Uncore: 1596.8 MHz
Multiplier Current: 39
Architecture Matisse / Technology: 7 nm
CPUID / Ext. F.1.0 / 17.71
IA Extensions MMX(+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA
Caches L1D : 32 KB / L2 : 512 KB / L3 : 16384 KB
Caches Assoc. L1D : 8-way / L2 : 8-way / L3 : 16-way
Microcode Rev. 0x8701011
Vcore 1.363 Volts
Type Retail
Cores Frequencies #00: 3892.11 MHz  #01: 3892.11 MHz  #02: 3892.11 MHz  #03: 3867.16 MHz 
#04: 3867.16 MHz  #05: 3892.11 MHz 
Motherboard
Model Asus ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING
North Bridge AMD Ryzen SOC rev 00
South Bridge AMD B350 rev 51
BIOS American Megatrends Inc. 5008 (06/20/2019)
AMD AGESA Combo-AM4 1.0.0.2
Memory (RAM)
Total Size 16384 MB
Type Dual Channel (128 bit) DDR4-SDRAM
Frequency 1596.8 MHz (DDR4-3194) - Ratio 1:16
Timings 22-22-22-52-74-1 (tCAS-tRC-tRP-tRAS-tCS-tCR)
Slot #1 Module Kingston 8192 MB (DDR4-2400) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: KHX3200C16D4/8GX
Slot #2 Module Kingston 8192 MB (DDR4-2400) - XMP 2.0 - P/N: KHX3200C16D4/8GX
Graphic Card (GPU)
GPU Type AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 (Vega 10 XT)
GPU Brand ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
GPU VRAM 8176 MB

[FFFHunter]

Guyz don't forget Ryzen dram calculator that thing works pretty well i used calculate safe settings no problems so far.

[SuperRichioROG]

Hello again all,

Some further info for Ryzen 3000 users...(just my experience)

A day or so ago the full release of the latest chipset driver from AMD was released, this driver addresses the destiny 2 hanging bug by implementing a 'workaround' until the next bios update clears testing with the various board vendors.

the driver Rev:1.07.29.0115 otherwise referred to as 19.10.22 for b350 can be found here;
https://www.amd.com/en/support/chips...ocket-am4/b350

I can confirm that destiny 2 works fine with this chipset driver. At least with my board however the new version of the ryzen balanced power plan included with the driver caused voltages stuck at 1.38 to 1.45 constantly with slightly elevated temps, clock speed stuck at over 3.9ghz even at idle and elevated fan RPM.

I have no idea why but AMD set the minimum processor state to 99% for the BALANCED power plan! Even the previous versions of the power plan didn't do that, at least for my board. Changing the minimum state to 0% brought everything back in line with idle temps of 37.5-39c and indle voltage of around 0.925v.

I ran timespy benchmarks with both the previous chipset driver and the new chipset driver with the ryzen balanced minimum processor state set to 0% and lost no performance at all. I also then played through various games while monitoring with gpu tweak 2 to confirm the cpu was indeed still boosting to 4.2ghz and maintaining temps as before. All is well.

Hopefully this will help anyone who runs into similar issues with the latest chipset driver.

Happy gaming all.

[yuz85]

when will they release update... i need AGESA 1.0.0.3 AB, my memory wont run CL14@3200 ive tried ddram calc still wont post >_> cl16@2400 uuuuh
i tried to set cpu boost to 200mhz, but i get random reboot like once a day must be some power thingie

[SuperRichioROG]

when will they release update... i need AGESA 1.0.0.3 AB, my memory wont run CL14@3200 ive tried ddram calc still wont post >_> cl16@2400 uuuuh
i tried to set cpu boost to 200mhz, but i get random reboot like once a day must be some power thingie

No idea unfortunately, according to AMD the new AGESA code is in testing at the moment with board vendors so we should expect to see it released 'within a few weeks'.

As for your RAM issue all I can say is my Corsair LPX 3200 C16 is running fine simply using the XMP profile, all other settings in the bios are at their default values accept for USB power settings and a fan tweak or two. Bios 4801 had weird ram issues for me but 5008 has been fine.

[maikrosoft]

New update is out:
Version 5204
2019/08/07
ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING BIOS 5204
Update AGESA 1.0.0.3 Patch AB to improve compatibility;
Recommend updating the BIOS via EZ Flash.

[Whiplash-RoG]

New update is out:
Version 5204
2019/08/07
ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING BIOS 5204
Update AGESA 1.0.0.3 Patch AB to improve compatibility;
Recommend updating the BIOS via EZ Flash.

That was quick! Excellent news. I can see a 3600 in my near future.

[NecroMan]

Just AB, not ABB? So without Destiny 2 fix?

[maikrosoft]

ASROCK says with ABB Ryzen 1xxx is no longer supportet. Let us see what ASUS do