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    Quote Originally Posted by link626 View Post
    No. I disassembled a gl502vmk, and it too has the x2 JHL6240 controller.

    I don't care what one benchmark might tell you.
    JHL6240 IS BOTTLENECKED AT 2x PCIE LANES. You're not squeezing out 40gbps from a 20gbps chip.


    I didn't have to disassemble it though, since the v4 TB firmware listed in the TB software only works with the 6240 controller, so that alone tells you the 502vmk has the 2-lane 6240 chip.
    I still haven't seen any solid evidence (other than a few forum posts, and a Wikipedia page) that prove the 6240 is only 2 lanes/20gbps. Hell even the official Intel ARK Page doesn't list this information.

    I look forward to seeing additional benchmarks so that we can lay this issue to rest. I need real data before I make a final assessment. Wikipedia articles, and speculative forum posts aren't enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bran187 View Post
    I still haven't seen any solid evidence (other than a few forum posts, and a Wikipedia page) that prove the 6240 is only 2 lanes/20gbps. Hell even the official Intel ARK Page doesn't list this information.

    I look forward to seeing additional benchmarks so that we can lay this issue to rest. I need real data before I make a final assessment. Wikipedia articles, and speculative forum posts aren't enough for me.
    I've said it before and I'll say it again, Asus should provide this information and I think it's pretty shocking that they don't.

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

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    Quote Originally Posted by link626 View Post
    No. I disassembled a gl502vmk, and it too has the x2 JHL6240 controller.

    I don't care what one benchmark might tell you.
    JHL6240 IS BOTTLENECKED AT 2x PCIE LANES. You're not squeezing out 40gbps from a 20gbps chip.


    I didn't have to disassemble it though, since the v4 TB firmware listed in the TB software only works with the 6240 controller, so that alone tells you the 502vmk has the 2-lane 6240 chip.

    Attachment 66614


    You might get a high score in some tests, but that doesn't change the fact that this controller is the gimped 20gbps version JHL6240 with only 2 pcie lanes.
    some tests won't show the effects much. Especially an openGL furmark test, which might not even use 20gbps bandwidth.
    Most games don't use openGL, so your excitement at a furmark score would be premature.



    I'd like to see some apples to apples standard game benchmarks compared between the 1060 and 1080ti/egpu.

    This will tell people whether an egpu is even worth purchasing.

    Run the GTA V benchmark test and a few other games that have built-in benchmarks.

    If you can do that, it would be much more meaningful.



    This youtube video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR5f1MwfugA
    shows a full 40gbps TB controller with egpu gtx1080 vs internal gtx1060.

    A 2-lane GL502/702 should get equal or worse results.
    You've edited your post a few times, but still sound arrogant. It is not the first time you've replied to me and came off as a d-bag. Why not troll acer's site or sumtin?
    Last edited by StarJack; 08-13-2017 at 09:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoutTime01 View Post
    I've said it before and I'll say it again, Asus should provide this information and I think it's pretty shocking that they don't.

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
    Indeed. Their lack of communication on this issue (as well as a few others) are kinda mind boggling. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bran187 View Post
    I still haven't seen any solid evidence (other than a few forum posts, and a Wikipedia page) that prove the 6240 is only 2 lanes/20gbps. Hell even the official Intel ARK Page doesn't list this information.

    I look forward to seeing additional benchmarks so that we can lay this issue to rest. I need real data before I make a final assessment. Wikipedia articles, and speculative forum posts aren't enough for me.


    Still not convinced?

    https://ark.intel.com/products/serie...-3-Controllers
    https://ark.intel.com/products/94030...t-3-Controller
    https://ark.intel.com/products/94032...t-3-Controller


    The 6240 is a 1.2W part.
    The 6340 is a 1.7W part, and more expensive.

    Do you think Intel would give the 6240 full performance at low power, less watts, and make it cheaper?

    Logic says it's a gimped controller with 2 lanes, otherwise they would stop selling the JHL6340 if it had identical performance and the full 40gbps.
    Just believe wikipedia, or maybe even try contacting Intel directly for specs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarJack View Post
    You've edited your post a few times, but still sound arrogant. It is not the first time you've replied to me and came off as a d-bag. Why not troll acer's site or sumtin?

    Don't get your panties in a bunch. How the fok does that sound arrogant?

    I'm providing objective data as a counterargument.

    If I were arrogant, I would sound like Donald Trump..... "I'm the best, I use all the best words...."

    Just because you don't like what you hear doesn't mean it's trolling. You should stop using the word "troll" so loosely.

    I'm informing the public.

    I'm a GL502VM owner. Why should I go to acer's site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by link626 View Post
    Still not convinced?

    https://ark.intel.com/products/serie...-3-Controllers
    https://ark.intel.com/products/94030...t-3-Controller
    https://ark.intel.com/products/94032...t-3-Controller


    The 6240 is a 1.2W part.
    The 6340 is a 1.7W part, and more expensive.

    Do you think Intel would give the 6240 full performance at low power, less watts, and make it cheaper?

    Logic says it's a gimped controller with 2 lanes, otherwise they would stop selling the JHL6340 if it had identical performance and the full 40gbps.
    Just believe wikipedia, or maybe even try contacting Intel directly for specs.
    ^Actually, the specs add even more confusion, since nowhere it lists the number the lanes. You would assume that is important info for specification.

    Saying that something is"logical" just adds extra layer of speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by link626 View Post
    Don't get your panties in a bunch. How the fok does that sound arrogant?

    I'm providing objective data as a counterargument.

    If I were arrogant, I would sound like Donald Trump..... "I'm the best, I use all the best words...."

    Just because you don't like what you hear doesn't mean it's trolling. You should stop using the word "troll" so loosely.

    I'm informing the public.

    I'm a GL502VM owner. Why should I go to acer's site?
    yea ok tough-guy. troll on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by link626 View Post
    Still not convinced?

    https://ark.intel.com/products/serie...-3-Controllers
    https://ark.intel.com/products/94030...t-3-Controller
    https://ark.intel.com/products/94032...t-3-Controller


    The 6240 is a 1.2W part.
    The 6340 is a 1.7W part, and more expensive.

    Do you think Intel would give the 6240 full performance at low power, less watts, and make it cheaper?

    Logic says it's a gimped controller with 2 lanes, otherwise they would stop selling the JHL6340 if it had identical performance and the full 40gbps.
    Just believe wikipedia, or maybe even try contacting Intel directly for specs.
    Yep, I'm still not convinced.

    Unless you design thunderbolt controllers for a living (I sure as hell don't) I think its a bit bold to assume anything based on that information.

    I don't know whether it is a 20 or a 40 gbps controller. It could be either one. But until Intel or Asus (both of which I have reached out to for more information) steps in with official documentation to clear up the matter, I am going to wait for more data.

    I trust data more than I trust Wikipedia.

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    I should add that Asus laptops are region dependent.

    Not all Asus GL502VMK are equal.
    For instances, my GL502VMK is black, with those horrible keys in orange (A, S, D and W). The USA model is light grey.
    In the inside, there are differences as well.

    Thunderbolt may also be a different story.
    Asus is not usually open to this differences, so each one of us should dig into its iwb material and find out.

    Adding to this, there are trolls in the internet.
    Although I think there are none in this post.
    We all are trying to understand if it makes sense to spend this much money on an external dock and an external card for the performance in return.

    I am happy for those who did purchase such equipment, because the economy continues to move forward and they get happy.
    For me, on the other hand, I prefer saving some money and prepare myself for buying a desktop, with a 6-10 cores CPU

    Food for thought.

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