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    X299 VRM Disaster (overheat) ??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beto556 View Post
    Seems cooling is the issue here. At least the ROG offerings will be revised, but it's an age old problem. I will likely go monoblock for this generation, although I don't plan on subjecting the system to massive AVX loads.

    Active cooling can go a long way, even on the X99 Deluxe I always have a fan over the VRM - even though temps are well within spec without.

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    They will need to get this addressed asap. This issue is another casualty of Intel pulling ahead the release of X299 in response to AMD. What a mess

    I've been active cooling or water cooling my VRMs since X79 and the Rampage IV. There were heat issues with them too especially when water cooling and eliminating the minimal airflow over the VRM heat sink. BUT...those boards would not throttle in just 10 minutes with a modest over clock. So this issue is definitely worse here on X299. All the mobo makers need to re-think this or there will be too many novice or aesthetic orientated clockers running into throttling issues.
    Last edited by mdzcpa; 06-29-2017 at 11:09 PM.

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    I'd like confirmation from more than one source.

    This guy could have received a "bad" processor part. Or he could have received a "bad" ASUS mobo. Did he even buy these parts, or are they pre-release media samples?
    Which firmware/BIOS version is he running? Exactly what BIOS settings did he change? What other power-sucking stuff does he have installed while measuring VRM temps?
    His methodology could somehow be flawed (though I don't know how, lol). Maybe he's even just using a lousy TIM.

    Or, yes, he could have measured a very real and possibly very serious VRM overheating issue. Exactly what the title says.
    I do actually applaud him for performing these measurements and reporting his findings. It provides a great service to those of us who cannot do such testing on a bunch of new X299 mobos ourselves.

    But a single motherboard from each manufacturer is not necessarily representative. Need more VRM temp measurements from different people running the same-model mobos before the apparent/speculative conclusion becomes an obvious/inarguable conclusion.

    This sort of thing is part of the reason I'm not rushing into X299 for the first year or so, lol. Maybe these temps can be corrected or reduced through firmware updates. Intel rushing the X299 launch (and thus rushing all mobo maker X299 launches) doesn't help, lol.

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    You do not know der8auer ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by tistou77 View Post
    You do not know der8auer ??
    i know him.
    don't mean everybody should know him though.

    @korth, news is legit (i think?) here are some more references:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1apy-AgCRM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyhJ8_d1FHM <- LinusTechtips' Wan show. seek to time @ 01:06:30
    no siggy, saw stuff that made me sad.

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    I know der8auer fairly well. He is legit. The only real criticism I see of his testing was his choice of PSU. That particular model has some limitations on its 12v CPU 8 pin rail. That said, I'm suspecting since he tested on 3 brand of mobos, the issue is likely real. It's not a show stopper, but something all the board makers need to address. We haven't even seen the higher core count chips yet. The 7900X is enough to see the throttling without active cooling. If you see most of the reviews of 7900X thus far on X299, they have been using a fan over the VRMs for overlocking testing on their reviews. That's fine....but a bit misleading as most end users likely were not planning on a 100mm man over that area in a case.

    Again, for the hardcore guys, this is not an big issue. But for prosumer workstations or those folks concerned about case aesthetics and cooling...they need a better solution.

    I am also not rushing to the new HEDT this time. Too much movement in the segment at the moment, and lots of rushed and pulled ahead releases. I'm going to considering jumping after the dust settles.
    Last edited by mdzcpa; 07-02-2017 at 02:28 PM.

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    It's actually good that he chooses some components (like PSU) which better represent "typical" consumer choices. Not everyone will have an 1600W Titanium Supernova or Platinum AX1500i or monstrous server-grade super PSU.

    I agree, having now seen multiple reviews about this VRM overheat issue, it definitely appears legit.

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    I was hoping to go x299 soon guess I'll wait & see..
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    Intel is rushing i300 and Coffee Lake, too, again in (preemptive?) response to AMD offerings. New scheduled release dates have been bumped up, according to old "leaked" Intel roadmaps.

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