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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoBeum View Post
    Thanks, that clarifies the other question I had about the other brands.
    The 751 will only be able to use the Samsung 950, because the UBX samsung has adds the nvme controller on the chip.
    and the Intel 750 maybe.

    the other brands: WD, Kingston, SanDisk, Corsair, Crucial all rely on the controller on the motherboard, when I was looking for drivers... which is why the drivers dont exist/ dont need to be made for those
    please allow me to get it right...
    you claim that on G751JY/T you can install NVME PCI-E card ( samsung preferebly because of the internal NVME chip on the ssd itself ) WITHOUT any bios modification AND still be able to UEFI boot it ( i.e being recognize during windows 10 installation, max by providing extra driver ) ?

    so does bios modding ( NVME module injection ) can help you at all ? ( so that native uefi ( i.e CSM off ) can detect it ? )

    can you please "arrange" my mind about it ?

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    I got an email from ASUS support, 3 days after I sent it, very poor, & the person said install an OS on it 1st!

    Well, that is what the purpose of the boot USB flash drive is for, & I told the person that.

    They never replied.

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    I ended up selling the SSD since I could not get hep from ASUS.

    Thanks to all here that tried to help, it was greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ButchN View Post
    I got an email from ASUS support, 3 days after I sent it, very poor, & the person said install an OS on it 1st!

    Well, that is what the purpose of the boot USB flash drive is for, & I told the person that.

    They never replied.
    yep, Asus tech rep have a tendency to answer empty/non-useful questions.
    usually they simply tell you to RMA the laptop.
    you spend 2000-4000$ on their top-of-the-line laptop, but they can't afford to employ *useful* tech-support.
    i'm not even sure they got 2nd tier tech-support, beside their R&D teams, which cannot be contacted by any mean by any private client.
    there's what "exist" and there's what "preferable"...

    So basically, you better of chating in forums like this, trying to educate yourself from other users knowledge.

    its facts of life, corporations care, in the long run, only about revenues... once you've purchase an item... DIY/education support isn't part of the deal...
    only RMA is... and during limited frametime... so that after 1-2 years, your item might get broken, and the whole loop of purchasing-> rma -> end of life will start all over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ButchN View Post
    I ended up selling the SSD since I could not get hep from ASUS.

    Thanks to all here that tried to help, it was greatly appreciated.
    Unfortunately there is nothing that is going to change your hardware on the MOBO. The just dont support. We beat this one to death some time ago when the 950 pros came out. The only M2s it will run are the SM951 AHCI version. Something like this.

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16820147425

    Just make sure you pay attention because they played a cruel joke with the SM951. There are two different model numbers separated by a single letter.


    MZHPV=AHCI and the one you want.

    MZVPV=NVME and wont work

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA12K3KA7506

    Another cruel joke ASUS played is the drive port. One is GEN 3 and the other is Gen 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gps3dx View Post
    please allow me to get it right...
    you claim that on G751JY/T you can install NVME PCI-E card ( samsung preferebly because of the internal NVME chip on the ssd itself ) WITHOUT any bios modification AND still be able to UEFI boot it ( i.e being recognize during windows 10 installation, max by providing extra driver ) ?

    so does bios modding ( NVME module injection ) can help you at all ? ( so that native uefi ( i.e CSM off ) can detect it ? )

    can you please "arrange" my mind about it ?

    No. Do not do a BIOS Inject - I tried it already.

    The best option is to load a 'Setup/PreInstallation Environment' for Windows WITH the Samsung (1.1) 1.4.6 NVME Controller. If you try and use the 2.2 controller, it won't boot.

    **Note** (This is important)

    You will need to inject the driver 4 times in 3 different image locations, 10 if you end up using the 4 Edition Installation Media
    1 - Boot.wim (PE)
    2 - Boot.wim (Setup)
    3 - install.wim (Windows Edition #1)
    4 - winre.wim (Windows Recovery #1 install.wim\Windows\System32\recovery)

    If you don't do all of them - when Windows does a major version update - you will lose the preloaded driver. Windows isn't smart enough to do it by itself.

    I'm almost finished my CustOEM Recovery project... have a look in the thread I made, I have pics of what I've added. I have WiFi, Bluetooth and Thunderbolt working in the PreInstallation Environment. I even added support for XInput so you can use a XBox controller - going to add that later for Menu UI and junk.
    I'm just trying to piece together all the bits of the puzzle getting things working now with the Installation.

    I added the photos to the first post:
    https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...723#post669723
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    Guide Asus G751-JY BIOS Modding NVMe PCIEx4 support Nr2

    Just look my NVMe BIOS Mod Guide for the ASUS G751

    I made a quick simple guide , how to upgrade your BIOS for NVMe Support. You really dont need to be afraid. My NVMe Drive works without problems,
    once the BIOS is upgraded.
    So there is not much profit in speed, because the HM87 Chipset can only support PCIe x4 Gen2 .. you will stay at 1600 MB/s read and 1400 MB/s write, but you dont need to pay a crazy amount of many for buying a AHCI compliant PCIe SSD, that is even slower and older.
    Be smart and make BIOS Mod (update). If you have any questions, feel free to contect me ...
    Have fun:

    https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...asus+g751+nvme


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