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08-23-2017 01:58 PM #1
antony209494 PC Specs Motherboard Crosshair VI Hero Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Memory (part number) Patriot Viper RGB 3200 CL16 Graphics Card #1 ASUS ROG Strix 1080Ti Sound Card Onboard Monitor Samsung 27CHG70 Storage #1 Adata SX8200 Storage #2 Western Digital WD10EARS-00MVWB0 CPU Cooler Antec Kuhler H2o 620 Power Supply Corsair GS 800 2013 OS Windows 10 Pro 64bit
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Help with Vdroops causing instability
Okay...So after some research I realized that the newer bios updates (after 1201) have rendered my OC unstable at my old settings. I used to run the R7 1700 at 4.00 GHz with 1.375 voltage and it was fine. The newer updates forced me to also use LLC level 4. Problem is even with LLC there are still voltage drops which cause crashes but not during gaming or stress testing. During these tasks VCORE readings (HWinfo64) range from 1.373 to 1.395 (I know for a fact that 1.373 is enough to maintain 4Ghz on my chip). So that's fine. Problem is when the PC is idling it still drops the voltage as low as 1.352.
So here is how the crash occurs: As I said it is fine during gaming but if I minimize a game with Alt+Tab and try to do something else or just leave it like that for some time, it will crash after sometime with the same WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR I got when I was not using LLC (denoting unstable OC due to Vdroops). In other words, these drops to 1.352 become a problem when I have a game running in the backround (happened with Dragon Age Origins, Dragon Age 2 and Fifa 17).
These drops to 1.352 when idling happen no matter the voltage setting or the LLC setting is (I have tried even up to 1.4 Volts with LLC 3 and this results in a scary 1.43V under load but it still dials down to 1.352 when idle). So what can I do? Vcore must never go below 1.373 no matter what to ensure total stability. Is there a way to force a constant voltage (and I mean really constant-never changing voltage no matter the load)?
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
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08-23-2017 04:40 PM #2
MrPhil17 PC Specs Laptop (Model) MacBook Pro Retina 15" Mid 2014 Motherboard Asus Maximus IV Extreme Processor Intel Core i7 2600k Memory (part number) F3-14900CL9Q-16GBSR Graphics Card #1 nVidia GeForce GTX 580 Sound Card Integrated Storage #1 Samsung 850 Pro 256GB CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D14 OS Windows 10 Home 64Bit
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I use LLC4 with 1,4000V. Lowest voltage is 1,3750V. Let's see if it help.
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08-23-2017 11:04 PM #3
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08-23-2017 11:30 PM #4
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Hi antony209494
To force a constant voltage set the windows power plan to high performance.Last edited by Nate152; 08-23-2017 at 11:41 PM.
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08-24-2017 01:28 AM #5
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08-24-2017 01:46 PM #6
antony209494 PC Specs Motherboard Crosshair VI Hero Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Memory (part number) Patriot Viper RGB 3200 CL16 Graphics Card #1 ASUS ROG Strix 1080Ti Sound Card Onboard Monitor Samsung 27CHG70 Storage #1 Adata SX8200 Storage #2 Western Digital WD10EARS-00MVWB0 CPU Cooler Antec Kuhler H2o 620 Power Supply Corsair GS 800 2013 OS Windows 10 Pro 64bit
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08-24-2017 02:49 PM #7
MrPhil17 PC Specs Laptop (Model) MacBook Pro Retina 15" Mid 2014 Motherboard Asus Maximus IV Extreme Processor Intel Core i7 2600k Memory (part number) F3-14900CL9Q-16GBSR Graphics Card #1 nVidia GeForce GTX 580 Sound Card Integrated Storage #1 Samsung 850 Pro 256GB CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D14 OS Windows 10 Home 64Bit
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Keep in mind that you will have a constant 1,4V only in idle / low usage. When your CPU start to work hard will work with 1,3750V. With my Corsair Hydro 100i V2 i got an average of 65° under stress test and only 40/45° during gaming sessions. I have this temps with a 4.0GHz overclock.
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08-24-2017 03:20 PM #8
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Well after some testing. High Performance in windows still causes the drops under stress test load e.g Prime 95.
Setting LLC to level 5 in BIOS keeps it level. Anything under that leads to drops during stress tests. Level 4 may be good for many with a small drop.
I am guessing this behaviour is due to the new BIOS updates? Made me realise I need to pay attention to the LLC settings more. Guides were giving the advice of leaving it at auto which does not keep the voltage level on Load for me.
An example: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...en,5011-2.htmlLast edited by Choze; 08-24-2017 at 03:24 PM.