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    To be fair, the "experts" with a few years of schooling/experience are less often wrong than the "experts" who know nothing, lol.

    True, we don't really know what these tech OEMs are really up to, we can only observe and speculate. They are competing (for our money), though. They lose customers each time they have poor delivery. I usually refer to the actual manufacturer's price, not the retailer's, and I've seen NVIDIA/AMD bump their GPU prices up across the board.
    "All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others." - Douglas Adams

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    ROG Guru: Green Belt Array panzlock PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korth View Post
    To be fair, the "experts" with a few years of schooling/experience are less often wrong than the "experts" who know nothing, lol.

    True, we don't really know what these tech OEMs are really up to, we can only observe and speculate. They are competing (for our money), though. They lose customers each time they have poor delivery. I usually refer to the actual manufacturer's price, not the retailer's, and I've seen NVIDIA/AMD bump their GPU prices up across the board.
    They're always going to be right until the manufacturers get caught. Before 2003 experts no doubt were preaching about market fluctuations, supply and demand and so on. Then, as Hynix, Micron, Samsung and CO. began admitting to their involvement in the price fixing strategy the experts didn't have much to say. They study the economy, not human nature.

    NVIDIA/AMD are riding the cryptocurrency craze. I doubt there's a shortage there, too, but we eat what we're fed.
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    Is it possible that Strix Vega 64 will arrive in November?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xendur View Post
    Is it possible that Strix Vega 64 will arrive in November?
    Not looking good. The 1070 Ti is already out https://www.pcworld.com/article/3234...announced.html

    ...and Vega AIB cards are nowhere to be seen.

    Again I'm hoping the delay is due to some optimization AMD and their partners are in the middle of but with the 64 having trouble with the 1080 and the 56 now having a more powerful competitor with a reasonable 180 Watt TDP AMD will have to get things rolling. Mind you with the 56 being well bracketed by NVIDIA's 1070 Ti and 1080, AIB Vega prices should be reasonable upon release.
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    ROG Guru: Green Belt Array Heini PC Specs
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    Today I got tired of waiting for the RX Vega 64 AIB cards and ordered the Radeon Vega Frontier Edition. It's possible that the reason the AIB cards aren't out is because AMD want's to lower the factory card stock levels before the better cooled cards are released.
    Last edited by Heini; 10-26-2017 at 07:44 PM.

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    ROG Guru: Green Belt Array panzlock PC Specs
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    Not sure why TweakTown has another ASUS ROG Strix Vega 64 article dated October 24, 2017 (thought they did a review in August???) but the conclusion is rather disappointing. Runs hot, uses a lot of power and no OC headroom and performing at or below NVIDIA's 1080 FE. What's going on, ASUS:

    https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/83...nda/index.html

    I think the above performance brackets are the reason AIB partners aren't releasing the cards. Although the previous post could very well be true regarding AMD holding up AIB release to dwindle existing reference stock, I feel AMD and their partners are looking for a way to further improve Vega because she just doesn't look good when pitted against the 1080.

    However, hardwareLUXX has some contradictory evidence showing the ROG Strix Vega 64 performing better at certain resolutions using different titles than can be found in the TweakTown review. Additionally, they have undervolted performance figures which reveal a minor system power draw reduction which STILL leaves it siphoning morew petrol than the 1080 and 1080 Ti:

    https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.ph...ting-test.html

    Not sure what to make of it. Heat and lower clocks are killing the 64's ability to compete. But if you look at various 56 reviews that version is receiving much more praise, even seen here performing very close to her more powerful sibling (posting as a reminder):

    https://translate.google.de/translat...tml&edit-text=

    I still need a card for second build. I would never buy the 64, I already have a 1070 so the race is clearly between the 56 and slowly price dropping 1080. And the 1080 has quite an advantage...Availability. And unlike Heini I can't settle for another reference/blower type card, so...your loss, AMD. And ASUS's as well should I decide to go with EVGA's iCX solution. The second one might actually be an empty threat, though, lol.
    Last edited by panzlock; 10-29-2017 at 05:10 PM.
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    ROG Guru: Green Belt Array Heini PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by panzlock View Post
    And unlike Heini I can't settle for another reference/blower type card, so...your loss, AMD.
    I learned that the Raijintek Morpheus II will fit so I'm not truly settling for a reference cooler. I've done the tests with the stock cooler and I'll try again next week with the Raijintek.

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    ROG Guru: Green Belt Array panzlock PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heini View Post
    I learned that the Raijintek Morpheus II will fit so I'm not truly settling for a reference cooler. I've done the tests with the stock cooler and I'll try again next week with the Raijintek.
    Good call because now they took down the clock speed specs: https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Graphics-...pecifications/

    This isn't happening until Christmas the earliest.
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    XFX has their teaser ready: https://www.techpowerup.com/238443/x...-graphics-card

    Not a bad looking card.
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    Sapphire's version: https://www.techpowerup.com/238742/s...ictured-tested

    I have to say this I really like. Particularly since they put an RGB logo on the backplate like ASUS. And it's also very modest, not overdone and clean.
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