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    ROG Guru: Black Belt Array Korth PC Specs
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    MotherboardASUS X99 R5E (BIOS2101/1902)
    ProcessorHaswell-EP E5-1680-3 SR20H/R2 (4.4GHz)
    Memory (part number)Vengeance LPX 4x8GB SS DDR4-3000 (CMK32GX4M4C3000C15)
    Graphics Card #1NVIDIA Quadro GP100GL/16GB, 16xPCIe3, NVLink1 (SLI-HB)
    Graphics Card #2NVIDIA Quadro GP100GL/16GB, 16xPCIe3, NVLink1 (SLI-HB)
    Sound CardJDS Labs O2+ODAC (RevB), USB2 UAC1
    MonitorASUS PG278Q
    Storage #1Samsung 850 PRO 512GB SSDs, 4xSATA3 RAID0
    Storage #2Comay BladeDrive E28 3200GB SSD, 8xPCIe2
    CPU CoolerRaijintek NEMESIS/TISIS, AS5, 2xNH-A14
    CaseObsidian 750D (original), 6xNH-A14
    Power SupplyZalman/FSP ZM1250 Platinum
    Headset Pilot P51 PTT *modded*
    OS Arch, Gentoo, Win7x64, Win10x64
    Network RouterActiontec T3200M VDSL2 Gateway
    Accessory #1 TP-Link AC1900 Archer T9E, 1xPCIe
    Accessory #2 ASUS/Infineon SLB9635 TPM (TT1.2/FW3.19)
    Accessory #3 ASUS OC Panel I (FW0501)
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    NH-D15 does advertise LGA1151 compatibility.

    I use Raijintek TISIS on my 140W Haswell-EPs, it's a serious mass of metal, even bigger and beastlier than the mighty NH-D15. Held back in the comparisons/reviews by the junk thermal paste and the crappy Raijinktek fans it comes with ... much better looking, slightly better cooling, and similar overall price vs NH-D15 when fitted with a premium paste and Noctua fans, lol.

    The rest of my huge dual-tower CPU cooler short list: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 (beautiful, "silent", 250W-rated). Cryorig R1 Ultimate. Phanteks PH-TC14PE. Thermalright Silver Arrow Extreme (SB-E and IB-E variants).

    It's hard to beat the NH-D15 on cooling performance, it's powerful and proven, but it's just so nasty mocha-chocolate cheap-metal ugly that I make the extra effort, lol. It turns out a refitted black nickel-chrome TISIS with black(ish) Noctua iPPC fans provides even better cooling ... but it's such a tight fit that great care must be taken with motherboard/GPU/RAM selections ... and it took me a long time to get rid of those lousy Raijintek fans, lol.
    Last edited by Korth; 10-08-2017 at 03:11 PM.
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  2. #12
    ROG Guru: Black Belt Array Korth PC Specs
    Korth PC Specs
    MotherboardASUS X99 R5E (BIOS2101/1902)
    ProcessorHaswell-EP E5-1680-3 SR20H/R2 (4.4GHz)
    Memory (part number)Vengeance LPX 4x8GB SS DDR4-3000 (CMK32GX4M4C3000C15)
    Graphics Card #1NVIDIA Quadro GP100GL/16GB, 16xPCIe3, NVLink1 (SLI-HB)
    Graphics Card #2NVIDIA Quadro GP100GL/16GB, 16xPCIe3, NVLink1 (SLI-HB)
    Sound CardJDS Labs O2+ODAC (RevB), USB2 UAC1
    MonitorASUS PG278Q
    Storage #1Samsung 850 PRO 512GB SSDs, 4xSATA3 RAID0
    Storage #2Comay BladeDrive E28 3200GB SSD, 8xPCIe2
    CPU CoolerRaijintek NEMESIS/TISIS, AS5, 2xNH-A14
    CaseObsidian 750D (original), 6xNH-A14
    Power SupplyZalman/FSP ZM1250 Platinum
    Headset Pilot P51 PTT *modded*
    OS Arch, Gentoo, Win7x64, Win10x64
    Network RouterActiontec T3200M VDSL2 Gateway
    Accessory #1 TP-Link AC1900 Archer T9E, 1xPCIe
    Accessory #2 ASUS/Infineon SLB9635 TPM (TT1.2/FW3.19)
    Accessory #3 ASUS OC Panel I (FW0501)
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    Well, I've seen about an half dozen threads already (including my own) which announced ASUS Z370 mobos to the ROG forums, along with another half dozen or so asking when the MAXIMUS X EXTREME will be available, lol. Seems all the attention is on Z370 (not any other 300 Series chipsets), MAXIMUS (not PRIME or STRIX or TUF), and EXTREME (because ROG enthusiasts want extreme, lol).

    Z370 is awkwardly positioned. Not much of a real upgrade (outside synthetic benchmarks) over 2xx/KBL or even 1xx/SKL, at least not a compelling enough upgrade for "normal" people to justify replacing their 1-/2-year old motherboards and CPUs with shiny new 3xx/CFL equivalents. Not a linear upgrade for people who bought HEDT (TR4, X299, or even X99). Not a bang-for-the-buck upgrade for people who bought bang-for-the-buck AM4/Ryzen. Only a compelling upgrade for people still using old DDR3-era platforms.
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    ROG Guru: Blue Belt Array mdzcpa PC Specs
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    MotherboardMaximus Hero XI
    Processor9900k @ 5.1Ghz All Core 1.315v AVX -2
    Memory (part number)Gskill GTZ 4133 C17 32GB (4x8GB)
    Graphics Card #1ROG Strix 2080 TI OC
    Sound CardOn Board
    MonitorROG PG348Q
    Storage #1Samsung 970 Pro M.2 512GB for OS & APPS
    Storage #2Samsung 970 Pro M.2 1TB for GAMES
    CPU CoolerROG Ryujin 360
    CasePhanteks Evolv X
    Power SupplySeasonic Prime 1000W Titanium
    Keyboard Corsair K70 LUX RGB
    Mouse Corsair M65 RGB
    Headset Corsaur VOID Pro
    Mouse Pad Corsair MM300 Wide Desk Mat
    OS WIN 10 Pro
    Network RouterLinksys VELOP
    Accessory #1 ROG 751JY Laptop for Moobile Gaming
    Accessory #2 Koolance EXC-800 Chiller
    Accessory #3 25+ years of overclocking

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    I would agree there is no compelling need to upgrade from a 1-2 year system. But if you're in the market for current mainstream enthusiast, CL is now the go to system IMO. Kaby Lake is essentially obsolete. A lot of people do not need 16+ threads. For me, though, 2 more core for gaming and streaming and a few other tasks is quite welcome. I also am not sold on the AMD Ryzen/TR platform being completely mature just yet for my liking. I am an old AMD fan but I think current product needs a generation to finish teething...hopefully better chipset/mobo/optimization/support will come. Coffee Lake/370 may be a mostly paper, very rushed launch, but it still is going to be the next in line.

    That all said....if I stall long enough for CL parts, I may have time to look at AMD again....

    In any case, I enjoy the discussion

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    ROG Guru: Black Belt Array Korth PC Specs
    Korth PC Specs
    MotherboardASUS X99 R5E (BIOS2101/1902)
    ProcessorHaswell-EP E5-1680-3 SR20H/R2 (4.4GHz)
    Memory (part number)Vengeance LPX 4x8GB SS DDR4-3000 (CMK32GX4M4C3000C15)
    Graphics Card #1NVIDIA Quadro GP100GL/16GB, 16xPCIe3, NVLink1 (SLI-HB)
    Graphics Card #2NVIDIA Quadro GP100GL/16GB, 16xPCIe3, NVLink1 (SLI-HB)
    Sound CardJDS Labs O2+ODAC (RevB), USB2 UAC1
    MonitorASUS PG278Q
    Storage #1Samsung 850 PRO 512GB SSDs, 4xSATA3 RAID0
    Storage #2Comay BladeDrive E28 3200GB SSD, 8xPCIe2
    CPU CoolerRaijintek NEMESIS/TISIS, AS5, 2xNH-A14
    CaseObsidian 750D (original), 6xNH-A14
    Power SupplyZalman/FSP ZM1250 Platinum
    Headset Pilot P51 PTT *modded*
    OS Arch, Gentoo, Win7x64, Win10x64
    Network RouterActiontec T3200M VDSL2 Gateway
    Accessory #1 TP-Link AC1900 Archer T9E, 1xPCIe
    Accessory #2 ASUS/Infineon SLB9635 TPM (TT1.2/FW3.19)
    Accessory #3 ASUS OC Panel I (FW0501)
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    Faster cores is good. More cores is also good. i7-8700K vs i7-7700K is a no-brainer. And Intel couldn't possibly choose a worse TIM than that junk they used in KBL, pretty sad when de-lidding is accepted as standard practice because otherwise the chip just won't work at rated speeds, lol.

    But it doesn't really seem as useful for gaming as you might hope, at least not with current games. It could really shine on titles released in a few years (by which time we'll be drooling over Z470 or Z570 chipsets with Cannon Lake or Ice Lake or Tiger Lake processors, lol).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPvgoQ64E08

    (Don't forget about the faster-better AM4 Ryzen Pro parts which also just "coincidentally" released, some a few months ago, some still TBA, none readily available for most consumers in actual practice.)
    Last edited by Korth; 10-08-2017 at 10:15 PM.
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