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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array lightknightrr PC Specs
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    MotherboardAsus Crosshair VI Hero WiFi
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    Question Which RAM to choose?: Corsair 3800Mhz vs. G.Skill 3600Mhz {16GB sticks}

    So, I find myself in the sad situation of trying to figure out which 128GB kit (will be split into two sets of 64GB, 4x16GB sticks in each set, 8x16GB sticks total) to purchase. I say sad, because I would normally just run to G.Skill, and grab their 3866Mhz version, and call it a day (after a fiasco with some high-grade Corsair RAM, a known hardware defect (row hammer), and a Crosshair V Formula-Z board, I'm a little wary of their RAM these days); however, the only kit readily available from G.Skill (in the size and quantity) at the moment is 3600Mhz (no idea when they are getting the 3866Mhz version back in), and Corsair is offering a kit of comparable size and quantity that purports to run at 3800Mhz.

    Now, in reality, getting 64GB of DDR4 RAM to run at 3600Mhz on a C6H motherboard is probably unlikely at best, but I will take what I can get, while Asus (hopefully) works on the problem. So, given your own experience and knowledge of these two companies (G.Skill & Corsair), which one is the smarter to buy from, and more likely to give me the higher rated speed with the above choices? Should I stick with G.Skill, grab the 3600Mhz, and tinker until it works? Or should I give Corsair a chance to redeem themselves, possibly by running the RAM at 3800Mhz (but more realistically, 3600Mhz)? Or does anyone know when Amazon and NewEgg will be getting a fresh shipment of 16GB modules of 3866Mhz DDR4 G.Skill RAM in? I just don't want to be stuck in a scenario where I have this highly rated Corsair RAM (again), and the speed is limited to 2133, or hell, lower than the 3200Mhz I currently have running in there.

    Your thoughts, opinions, successes (has anyone pulled this off with this RAM)?

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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array syldon PC Specs
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    MotherboardAsus crosshair VII
    Memory (part number)G.Skill Trident Z 32GB DDR4 F4-4000C18Q-32GTZKW running at 3466 14-14-14-28
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    If you want to use memory in those sort of quantities then you should really look into thread ripper where it is supported. There are a few 16gb kits supported that make up to 32gb. There is nothing in the QVL list supported anything above 32gb.

    Getting anything above 3200 is very much a silicon lottery, and anything above 16gb on 2 sticks just makes those odds even lower.

    You will get more information from this thread than in this forum.
    Last edited by syldon; 10-16-2017 at 07:31 AM.

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    AMD Preps AGESA Firmware to support Raven Ridge APUs

    For those that don't know what it is, AGESA is pretty much the main BIOS code for AMD motherboards enabling Ryzen and Threadripper processors. Currently we sit at a main build (with many sub revisions) which enabled gixed a lot of memory issues a while ago.

    An interesting spot has been found as AMD is preparing AGESA Over at the OCN forums it was Elmor who wrote the following:

    AGESA 1007 comes with support for Raven Ridge APUs. AMD has also changed the entire BIOS base structure so we have to do a lot of work to port everything to the new version, which may result in further bugs. The advantage is that it makes it easier to support future CPUs (Raven Ridge, Pinnacle Ridge). The cold boot fix will be implemented as soon as we have a recent AGESA version which supports it.

    He is involved int he team from ASUS ROG and thus spilled the beans that AGESA holds significantly changes and revisions to support the future processors. So "AGESA 1007 comes with support for Raven Ridge APUs and also also is refreshing the entire BIOS structure, which pretty much means that AGESA will see a massive overhaul. Time will tell, it will also be interesting to see what other changes AGESA 1007 will bring.

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    ROG Guru: Orange Belt Array Syaoran PC Specs
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    Laptop (Model)MSI GP62 7RD
    MotherboardGigabyte Aorus X470 Gaming 7 WiFi
    ProcessorAMD Ryzen 7 1700X @ 3.8GHz
    Memory (part number)G.Skill F4-3600C15D-16GTZ (4 X 8GB) @ 3333 C14-13-13-13-34
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    Getting 3,600MHx working has been a chore for me since 9945. A lot of people tend to favor 9920, which does offer the latest AGESA that Asus has bothered to implement ( Trying to attempt 4 sticks on this motherboard adds tot he complications. I have 32GB (4X8GB) G. Skill F4-3600C15, which I still can't get to run at 3,600 stable. The best I have managed to get is my current settings on BIOS 1602, which is 3,560MHz. There is a more recent BIOS I have yet to try. BIOS's tend to be very hit and miss for various users around here. For synthetic benchmarks, going over 3,466MHz does't yield any gains but the overall snappiness of the system and in gaming, there are small noticeable gains.

    The easiest way to post what I have is through CPU-Z's validation tool.

    FSB: 102.8 (the board dips a little)
    RAM: 3,466MHz
    Timings: 15-15-15-15-35-50-2T (stock timings for my RAM)
    Voltage: 1.417 (which fluctuates up to 1.349 on occasion)

    Best of luck!

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