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    Quote Originally Posted by Korth View Post
    The big sticking point for me is whether or not VROC is compatible with non-Intel SSDs.

    Intel SSDs are just too overpriced and underwhelming. Just like Optane was, lol.
    There is a whole big discussion on that in another thread. Very simply VROC as a bootable drive with third party SSDs not happening. VROC as a non-bootable drive using third-party drives we have seen possible, but with a trial period. Many of us are hoping with the VROC Standard key (dongle) we can do this without the trial period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinThyme View Post
    I have an open rapport with ASUS on this. If you havent already log a service ticket for inoperable VROC due to key unavailability.
    Last response I got was they were negotiating with Intel but that doesnt help to provide us with what is in the specifications for the machine.
    Want to change the specs and no longer offer it thats fine BUT and BIG BUT, for those who bought it its owed for it to work as specified and marketed.
    Wait, is there an actual ticket selection pull down for this?? I forgot I have to register my motherboard but did you put it under a technical support enquiry or what type of ticket??
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    I just got a note from the gentleman who wrote the PCPER.com article on VROC. I asked him if he thought having a VROC key would allow us to use non-intel drives using VROC if it isn't bootable. His response:

    "Trial mode seems to work with everything (but not bootable). VROC key enables *supported* drives, but none on the list are retail products. Installing VROC premium key *kills* a 960 PRO RAID that was working perfectly in trial mode."

    So installing the VROC key with his 960Pros killed the RAID. Technically my SM961's are on the approved list, but that list also said that it was only for XEON processors. It would really be SH*TTY if Intel lets you taste what VROC is all about, with third-party M.2s, then refuse to allow us to use it even with us buying a valid key. Still looking for more information but until one of us gets a key...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beto556 View Post
    Brighttail,
    Thanks for reply....but....I don't know which dongle.

    For example:

    I saw 2 types of dongle.

    Attachment 68571

    Which one will work?
    I tried 1410 and it didn't work as expected. It can't even see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korth View Post
    The big sticking point for me is whether or not VROC is compatible with non-Intel SSDs.

    Intel SSDs are just too overpriced and underwhelming. Just like Optane was, lol.
    Are you also upgrading to X299?

    Thing is no one knows for sure as there is mixed info being put out by intel. One minute it’s yes, then it’s no then it’s maybe but we won’t support it. * Meanwhile no one can know for sure without a key they can’t get. VROCSTANDMOD is an incomplete part description and covers a rather large variety of platforms with none being a one key works in all of them and Intel as well as ASUS isn’t talking. The only thing we’ve seen is Intel stating compatible keys won’t be sold to consumers and will only be bundled.*

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    VROC May prepare for next generation Optane SSD buddy. Please waiting for Intel 900P M.2 format. I think Intel now preparing VROC key within in package for NVME RAID Volumn . They may waiting for XEON W release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by restsugavan View Post
    VROC May prepare for next generation Optane SSD buddy. Please waiting for Intel 900P M.2 format. I think Intel now preparing VROC key within in package for NVME RAID Volumn . They may waiting for XEON W release.
    I think I speak for everyone here that the interest in running a pair of 900 P cards here is zero. Their performance still falls short and they take up an entire PCIe slot for a mere 480GB maximum. They run hot and use 5W of power at idle compared to 50mW of every other. We also have no interest in the Xeon platform as this is about X299 and SkylakeX.

    Everyone is looking at what we were sold. A machine that will run VROC on intel drives without a key and on SM950 or SM961 with a key and to be able to buy a key that is all in the specifications of the MOBO. Intel has already announced the bundle of the key with Intel drives but it also stated in that same statement bundled with motherboards by perspective manufacturers and not available for retail sale at all. For many of us this is a deal breaker. Ive been waiting patiently but Im about half a breath away from tearing my machine down and returning my MOBO and ASUS graphics cards and P348Q and Hyper M2 X16 and going for a different and MUCH less expensive solution and will do so before my return window closes. If Im going to be missing features I paid for that are in the specs and marketing Id just as soon save myself a few thousand $$ by going with a Gigabyte or MSI MOBO, Zotac Graphics and Acer display. That or class action on the horizon. Its not like we are talking about a $50 investment here, these HEDT rigs are on average $5K to build and for that you get cheated? I dont think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artah View Post
    I tried 1410 and it didn't work as expected. It can't even see it.
    Thanks for the update. Im thinking there are no keys that can be bought that will work on this platform, the VROCSTANDMOD key description covers 100s of different keys and Im sure by design. You cant buy them, see if they work then return them.

    Even ASUS propganda is conflicting. This marketing photo shows a 1653 in one shot then a 1709 in another.



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    Ive met all the above requirements except a key!

    This is absurd holding up thousands in hardware over a $50 key that really costs like 50 cents to produce.
    Last edited by JustinThyme; 11-04-2017 at 12:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinThyme View Post
    I think I speak for everyone here that the interest in running a pair of 900 P cards here is zero. Their performance still falls short and they take up an entire PCIe slot for a mere 480GB maximum. They run hot and use 5W of power at idle compared to 50mW of every other. We also have no interest in the Xeon platform as this is about X299 and SkylakeX.

    Everyone is looking at what we were sold. A machine that will run VROC on intel drives without a key and on SM950 or SM961 with a key and to be able to buy a key that is all in the specifications of the MOBO. Intel has already announced the bundle of the key with Intel drives but it also stated in that same statement bundled with motherboards by perspective manufacturers and not available for retail sale at all. For many of us this is a deal breaker. Ive been waiting patiently but Im about half a breath away from tearing my machine down and returning my MOBO and ASUS graphics cards and P348Q and Hyper M2 X16 and going for a different and MUCH less expensive solution and will do so before my return window closes. If Im going to be missing features I paid for that are in the specs and marketing Id just as soon save myself a few thousand $$ by going with a Gigabyte or MSI MOBO, Zotac Graphics and Acer display. That or class action on the horizon. Its not like we are talking about a $50 investment here, these HEDT rigs are on average $5K to build and for that you get cheated? I dont think so.

    I see your point. but Intel statement now was they’ve not support VROC on any Core X system. Only Xeon W that support VROC.
    We should waiting for availability VROC on our Core X, my experience from HEDT platform from X79 told me that they’ll finally
    release VROC for free at last.

    Do you remember ROG Rampage 4 Extreme support all XEON E5 V2 2699 12 Core 24 Thread 30MB L3 at last of it age.?
    I think the situation of VROC on our Core X was following those step. Enjoy yourself and relax with gaming better buddy.han*

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    At present day who khow VROC performance clearly advantage over PCH RAID ?
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    We’ve only show case from computex one. However in real world use on XEON SP system was not clear better than PCH raid setup.
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