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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieH View Post
    I said from the get go I was using the adapters very clearly and even thanked Intel for them if you read closer.

    BTW a very interesting thing happened when I went to reinstall 1703. I had to load the driver twice to get the drives to show up but on the second load it showed all the drive partitions. I then deleted them and I could install the OS on the 3 drive RAID 0. That was awesome. But I decided not to for now and stuck with the single drive.

    I'll try to get some numbers posted soon but like was mentioned in other videos they are synthetic and not real world so they don't matter much to me.
    I did read close, you made your statement after the fact which is why I asked about 900P M2 drives because to my knowledge no such critter existed.

    The bench marks look good. now did you get a Vroc key with that or is your array going to expire in 90 days?

    Yes the synthetic benchmarks are not real world performance but the only means to compare. A bad synthetic benchmark will result in bad performance and vice versa even though the numbers will be skewed from actual real world performance.
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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array CharlieH PC Specs
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    No VROC key needed, no issue with the software being in trial mode.

    The only issue is the BIOS will not Create a RAID 0 on these drives. But you can do that with the IRSTe software and then the BIOS recognizes it as a RAID 0 drive and you can re-install Windows to it. When I get my other 4 I am going to try this with all 8, by adding a Samsung 960 Pro to the PCH, install windows to it, then spin up a VROC RAID 0 8 drive array. Then re-install windows to the RAID 0 and see how that works. I did read somewhere it will only boot off 4 drives on a single VMD controller and there are 3 VMD controllers in the CPU. If so then it will depend on how it scales how many i'll keep in the RAID 0 array and if I'll boot from just 1 lets say.

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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array CharlieH PC Specs
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    Another interesting thing to note my Windows boot and shutdown process seem to take significantly longer using VROC (Not sure if it is just using VROC or VROC with the Intel 900ps because I haven't tried the 600ps). But once it is up things seem to be normal well above normal by far .

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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array CharlieH PC Specs
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    4 drives:
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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array CharlieH PC Specs
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    I cannot get Hyper-V/Intel Virtualization technology to work, that's a nail in the coffin for me. I filed a bug with ASUS but w/o that I might as well as return everything I can't use this rig w/o it. I have been buying ASUS MBs for a very very long time and the Intel Virtualization Technology was always a BIOS setting you enabled and it always worked. Now its greyed out in the BIOS and just says available. I suspect that has something to do with it.

    Working with this platform for the short period of time I have, there have been many issues, I am starting to lean towards what I have heard from others now, that it is not ready and was rushed.

    But the 18 core CPU that supposedly will run stable at ~4.4 GHz, 128GB memory, VROC RAID 0 and Intel 900p SSDs were just to attractive not to try it.

    I do wonder about AMD now but I just don't have It in me to go through this again right now.

    Hopefully ASUS can fix it but I have like ~20 days before I need to return everything if it can't run Hyper-V. Another option is to try the 7900X CPU but that kills a major feature of what I wanted which was the 18 cores.


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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array CharlieH PC Specs
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    Whew got the Hyper-V to work.

    Final Summary of where I landed with the Intel 900ps:

    1) They are bootable VROC RAID 0
    2) I did all 4 in RAID 0 with the IRSTe application, I took default recommended settings
    3) To get #2 done I had to add a SSD to the DIMM.2 card, install the OS to that, and then setup the VROC RAID 0 with the 4 Intel 900ps
    4) After #3 I re-installed Windows, as part of that I deleted the partitions on the DIMM.2 SSD because even though I pick to boot the VROC RAID 0 it puts boot manager and partitions on the DIMM.2 SSD, what ever is left over you can use Disk Manager to setup. If you use a Samsung SSD and you have configured the DIMM.2 as DIMM.2 + U.2 in the BIOS it is running as a VROC drive and the IRSTe app shows it as unsupported but Disk Management can still interact with it
    5) To get Hyper-V to work after all that is setup, and you can boot into a Windows, you need to go back to the BIOS and set CSM to enabled.

    I dumped my Intel i9 7980XE chip for a 7900X, I was not happy with the performance of the chip, maybe I got a bad one, and with the OCing you are setting a MAX multiplier which doesn't mean the cores run at that speed and even when u say across all cores it runs cores at different speeds at least that is what I found on the 7980XE. I am much happier with the 7900X so far.

    I found out the following as well:
    1) The chipset driver fails/errors on 1703 and 1709 with VROC enabled in the BIOS, but after I rebooted and installed IRSTe Device Manager had drivers for everything there were 3 exceptions.
    2) One PCIe device needed a driver update, just select driver update and get it from the web and that fixed it.
    3) Network devices are showing w/o drivers even though the 1GB and 10GB network ports/drivers are installed and working.
    4) I didn't have to install the 10GB driver Windows installed one for me, when I tried to install it before it hung so I didn't try this last time.

    At the end of the day I can start using this beast all and all said well worth it for the drive speed!

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    Banned Array JustinThyme PC Specs
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    Interesting that it works fine for the U2 900P without trial and no key but wont for the 32GB optane drives.

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    Here is the IRSTe, notice it just warns about the Samsung 960 Pro SSD, and notice the RAID 0 Array is bootable:
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    After looking more closely at Disk Mgmt I see a couple of things:
    1) Because I took the default IRSTe settings for the RAID 0 array it put the reserved space it recommends at the end, this is why Windows required a second disk because it wants to add partitions and cant
    2) One could use Parted Magic to move the reserved partition first.
    3) Windows actually mixed some things it usually partitions on the single main RAID 0 partition. I should have deleted the main RAID 0 array partition as part of the install first.

    When I get my 4 extra drives I am re-installing and I will fix these issues and I won't need to keep the Samsung 960 Pro in I will be able to remove it. I do have a 2TB Samsung 960 Pro I will be adding back in though for extra storage since this VROC RAID 0 Array will be limited to ~2TB with 8 drives. And remember I mentioned it may only allow booting from 4 drives. If that is the case I will put the 8 drives back to a non-bootable VROC RAID 0 array, and boot off the Samsung SSD.
    Last edited by CharlieH; 11-06-2017 at 09:10 AM.

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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array CharlieH PC Specs
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    OK Hyper-V is still a problem. With no OC still I finally rebooted for the first time I got in to Windows with Hyper-V enabled. I thought enabling CSM was the trick. Well not a total fix. It changed something and got me in but when I rebooted same problem. And to get back in I had to reboot over and over causing windows to get interrupted during the boot process to cause a recovery that then let me back in. Every time I boot I have to do that. Geez this is frustrating definitely there is something going on bad with Intel Virtualization here.

    Here is a log message I get, not sure if it is related:
    Hyper-V detected access to a restricted MSR (Msr: 0x300, IsWrite: 0x0, MsrValue: 0x80000000B2641600, AccessStatus: 0x0, Pc: 0xFFFFF80387B91019, ImageBase: 0xFFFFF80387B90000, ImageChecksum: 0xEBB0, ImageTimestamp: 0x59BBA9DD, ImageName: iocbios2.sys
    Last edited by CharlieH; 11-06-2017 at 12:33 PM.

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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array CharlieH PC Specs
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    So installed Win 10 Pro via DIMM.2 PCH no VROC enabled Hyper-V works fine. The second I enable VROC on a Hyper M.2 Card and then install IRSTe can't get past the spinning circle at boot up without doing weird things like enabling/auto the CSM and causing Win 10 to prepare repair and reboot again.

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