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    Quote Originally Posted by SlackROG View Post
    Well I'm on WIndows 7, the install of it, since this post has been going on, and I have no intentions of installing Win10.

    My persistence is because I'm a Slackware Geek, been running Slack a long time, and that's a hands on Linux distro, and I'm a hands on Linux geek that hacks around in Slackware fixing and tweaking things all the time. So this was just another one of those Geeky things, this time for Windows... LOL

    I'm dual boot with Slack/Win7, Slackware is my online System, Win7 is only a gaming box, nothing more, I won't even go online surfing the web in it. In fact I put 127.0.0.1 in the network of IE just to make sure if any apps, or anything tried to take it online. I also disabled the updates, I don't need them, and all I installed is SP1.

    So there's only going to be a few pieces of software installed, to keep it light, fast and bloatfree! WoOT

    Let me tell ya, it runs FAST and I'm loving!

    So I can see the thinking of being an oudated OS, when this is the only OS someone has installed to do everything with, heck I'm sitting here in Slackware typing this, I only go online in Linux, never Windows, that's why I don't need Win10 latest blah blah blah... LOL

    Oh and I do a lot of gaming too in Slackware, never think for a sec that Linux is not a nice gaming platform it is.

    Any gaming emulator I use that in Linux, I've always found them all to run better in Linux.

    I'm using the dolphin-emulator in Slackware, playing Xenoblade Chronicles with...

    PEACE
    Hi SlackROG, You've got great reasons to stay with win7 for gaming, and run a Linux distro as your main working OS. As you know I am hoping to learn more about Linux in the new year. Maybe I'll have tons of questions for you!
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    Distrowatch lists hundreds of versions, AKA Distros;

    http://distrowatch.com/

    KDE is the desktop that is closest to Windows, most Linux users recommend it to new users, to try first.

    Arch Linux a Linux dsitro does a good job of keeping an updated Wiki, here's theirs on 'Desktop Environment', AKA DE;

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php...op_environment

    And this is on Window Managers, AKA 'WM', that which manages a Window, but some can be run standalone as a 'Desktop Environment', AKA DE;

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/window_manager

    I personally use the Openbox window manager as a standalone DE...

    The great thing about Linux is there's loads of them to try, so be sure to check out as many as possible to get a feel for what you'll eventually learn you'll like.

    To start out, I'd try Mint, Ubuntu, OpenSuse, then maybe Fedora next, that should keep you busy for a while.

    Basically it's this, Linux is the Kernel, and the differences between them, is the way they manage and run themselves, but Linux is Linux, what one can do, they all can do...

    They will also come with an IRC client which now seems to be 'Hexchat' that eveyone is using. Join the 'Freenode' IRC server, all the Linux distros have channels, where you can learn in real time. Freenode on the IRC channels is where I learned a lot of Linux from other people, and I still pop into the Slackware channel often if I run across something I need help with...

    Have fun...
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    Thanks! This is great info and I will surely appreciate those tips. I like the idea of the open-source user community taking responsibility for their OS. So many people have devoted so much of their time to create this community. I'll start with Mint/Ubuntu.

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    Well if you're a geek, then maybe one day you'll love a more hands on distro like Slackware, were you are in control.

    I love Slack for it's simplicity, I'm not sure any of them can beat Slack in this department, then Slack's stability is second to none, again, not sure any of them can out be Slack in the stability department either.

    Then what's awesome about using a hands on distro, when a software version comes out, you compile, package and install it, REMEMBER that word 'Package', the archive format and install method, so you can have good packmanagement in your system. Ubuntu/Mint '.deb' packages, Fedora '.rpm' packages, Slackware just uses tar packages...

    Slackware just uses 3 simple cmds; installpkg, upgradepkg, removepkg, there is also an ncurses front-end in Slackware called pkgtool.

    Many times when running the bigger more controlled distros like Ubuntu and Mint, when something new comes out, it's not so easy to grab the latest goodie, that is the biggest reason I use Slackware, so I can grab anything I want, when I want and use the version I want, not to mention, getting the kernel versions I want and compiling my own kernel...

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    I have pasted these comments in to a document in my LINUX folder so I have them all in one place. BTW, that is a great picture of "Tux" the Linux penguin! I saw a picture of a giant penguin towering over the MS headquarters with a caption "LINUX will be your server this evening" or something like that.

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    Have fun...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlackROG View Post
    Well I'm on WIndows 7…and I have no intentions of installing Win10.…I do a lot of gaming too in Slackware, never think for a sec that Linux is not a nice gaming platform …Any gaming emulator I use that in Linux, I've always found them all to run better in Linux.
    My philosophy is as yours is, Slack. I use Windows 7 for gaming, but in my case, I play online games. Performance is my top priority. I already knew that, as an operating system, Linux demands few fewer resources from a machine than Windows does. And now, some of the things you've said about Linux in this thread, and especially how you've found it to "run better" for gaming, have moved me to want to try it, for myself.

    When you said that emulators running under Linux ran "better," did you mean that, for example, a computer running Linux as its native desktop operating-system environment could consistently perform better, while running a game within a Windows emulator, than that same computer could run that same game, if the computer were running Windows as its native OS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by catsmoke View Post
    My philosophy is as yours is, Slack. I use Windows 7 for gaming, but in my case, I play online games. Performance is my top priority. I already knew that, as an operating system, Linux demands few fewer resources from a machine than Windows does. And now, some of the things you've said about Linux in this thread, and especially how you've found it to "run better" for gaming, have moved me to want to try it, for myself.

    When you said that emulators running under Linux ran "better," did you mean that, for example, a computer running Linux as its native desktop operating-system environment could consistently perform better, while running a game within a Windows emulator, than that same computer could run that same game, if the computer were running Windows as its native OS?

    Sorry for confusion over the emulators, I meant just that, game emulators that run in Windows & Linux, like the Dolphin Emulator as example.

    I have always found gaming emulators more stable and better playing then in Windows.

    Also as far as native run games, those that run in Windows and Linux, I have also found games to play better under Linux too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlackROG View Post
    I have a clonezilla backup so I have nothing to loose by trying this that I read online;

    If your MB supports CSM, install Windows 7 with CSM enabled but select "UEFI" as boot device and install Windows 7 normally. After all the updates and drivers are installed. you can remove the standard VGA drivers and boot without CSM. That's the script i used to remove it automatically:

    You have to run these cmds one at a time;

    rem disable vga.sys 640x480 16 colors
    rem ren %SystemRoot%\system32\drivers\vga.sys *.off
    set Services=HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services
    reg.exe add "%Services%\Vga" /f /t REG_DWORD /v "Start" /d 4
    reg.exe add "%Services%\VgaSave" /f /t REG_DWORD /v "Start" /d 4

    rem disable VGA at bootmgr
    bcdedit.exe /set {current} bootlog yes
    bcdedit.exe /set {current} bootstatuspolicy IgnoreAllFailures
    bcdedit.exe /set {current} novesa on
    bcdedit.exe /set {current} quietboot on


    Someone claims, after this, CSM can be disabled...

    I'll report back if this is true...
    this does not work for me. I know I did it right because when I turn CSM back on there is no windows loading screen but with CSM on I get the bcd error...

    its a fresh efi w7 install with only Nvidia drivers installed *
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    bcdedit.exe /set {current} quietboot on - removes the Windows boot/logo screen and you don't need to use this command if you want to still see it at boot up, it's just something for a little more speed on bootup is all. After I put up these commands that I found online, I later realized what this one does, and I don't use it.

    I was hacking around the other day, wiped out all my partitions, and I had to run the cmds over again, so these below are what I ran, and it worked.


    1. rem disable vga.sys 640x480 16 colors
    2. rem ren %SystemRoot%\system32\drivers\vga.sys *.off
    3. set Services=HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services
    4. reg.exe add "%Services%\Vga" /f /t REG_DWORD /v "Start" /d 4
    5. reg.exe add "%Services%\VgaSave" /f /t REG_DWORD /v "Start" /d 4
    6. rem disable VGA at bootmgr
    7. bcdedit.exe /set {current} bootlog yes
    8. bcdedit.exe /set {current} bootstatuspolicy IgnoreAllFailures
    9. bcdedit.exe /set {current} novesa on


    Is your system Nvidia Optimus, or just a dedicated Nvidia card only?

    Put up the exact error you get and I'll check around
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