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    Understanding and using XMP

    XMP is often viewed as plug n' play when overclocking memory. As is the case when overclocking other system components memory stability may not be achievable by simply enabling XMP.


    XMP will have been fully qualified by the memory manufacturer. This testing is done on a sample of boards the manufacturer has in there possession and/or by machine testing. The motherboard manufacturer likewise qualify specific memory sets for motherboards using provided memory sets, board samples and design/test data. The following are important considerations to keep in mind when relying on XMP as an overclocking option:


    Using XMP is not running the system at default stock settings. Any memory setting that differs from JEDEC or processor manufacturer specifications is an overclock.


    XMP is valid only for the set of memory that is purchased. Mixing modules or combining kits results in the XMP profile being no longer valid.


    Regardless of what may be assumed from marketing XMP does not guarantee automatic overclocking. The tighter the timings or higher the frequency compared to stock specifications the more likely chance there is that the user will need to manually make some adjustments for stability.


    To increase the probability of XMP being successful and when overclocking memory in general purchase memory kits one or two bins lower than the maximum the motherboard is qualified for.


    The biggest variable of XMP being successful will be the capabilities of the processor's IMC. As with CPU speed memory overclocking success will vary from one CPU sample to the next.


    When enabling XMP it is normal and should be expected that the board will alter other settings as well as voltages. These changes are set up to accommodate the processors at the lower end of the lot sampled. Especially with voltages it is the responsibility of the user to change these values to amounts that suit the particular CPU and configuration being used. Below are examples of some of the voltages that were altered by enabling XMP. As can be seen this CPU requires considerably less IO, SA and Standby voltages for stability than initially set.




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    XMP enabled with IO, SA and Standby voltages adjusted to match the needed values for the CPU

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    Thanks for this comprehensive guide! When you lowered the VCCIO, SA, and CPU Standby, how did you arrive at these values?

    Is your 8700K Delidded? That temperature is low!

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    No hard feelings towards the OP (it's not his fault anyway), but why do I get the feeling that this thread was made sticky as a response to my complains? If I'm right, that'd be SO infantile...(yet again).

    But OK, I'll bite. Loaded BIOS defaults, and the only option I modified is SVID at Best Behaviour (so XMP is disabled and RAM at default 2133, also verified that in HWiNFO64). And the voltages are still EXACTLY THE SAME, and I'm still having EXACTLY THE SAME ISSUES as when I have it enabled.

    Next excuse, please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SherardG View Post
    Thanks for this comprehensive guide! When you lowered the VCCIO, SA, and CPU Standby, how did you arrive at these values?

    Is your 8700K Delidded? That temperature is low!
    Hello

    Change the voltages or settings in small steps and retest for stability. In this instance I know what this CPU is capable of so I set 1V for all 3 settings. With further tuning the voltages can most likely be reduced further in this instance. Yes, the CPU is delidded.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dovakhan View Post
    No hard feelings towards the OP (it's not his fault anyway), but why do I get the feeling that this thread was made sticky as a response to my complains? If I'm right, that'd be SO infantile...(yet again).

    But OK, I'll bite. Loaded BIOS defaults, and the only option I modified is SVID at Best Behaviour (so XMP is disabled and RAM at default 2133, also verified that in HWiNFO64). And the voltages are still EXACTLY THE SAME, and I'm still having EXACTLY THE SAME ISSUES as when I have it enabled.

    Next excuse, please?
    Hello

    See my post in your latest thread.

    https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post690773

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    Great post, Praz. Covers ground that most users often overlook.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovakhan View Post
    No hard feelings towards the OP (it's not his fault anyway), but why do I get the feeling that this thread was made sticky as a response to my complains? If I'm right, that'd be SO infantile...(yet again).

    But OK, I'll bite. Loaded BIOS defaults, and the only option I modified is SVID at Best Behaviour (so XMP is disabled and RAM at default 2133, also verified that in HWiNFO64). And the voltages are still EXACTLY THE SAME, and I'm still having EXACTLY THE SAME ISSUES as when I have it enabled.

    Next excuse, please?
    I think you're flattering yourself too much. This is basic ground when it comes to memory overclocking and buying binned kits, and something that comes up time and time again. Memory is a complex subject that can't really be covered completely as it's outside the scope of what the end user will understand. What this post from Praz does, is tell you exactly what the profile does and the implications of it. Whether one chooses to accept that or not is down to that individual.
    Last edited by Silent Scone@ASUS; 12-06-2017 at 02:07 PM.

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    Probably also doesn't help that Z370 got released early and thus tends to have issues with XMP and memory overclocking in general. Bios probably needs a lot of work and there's sadly not been as many updates as I expected there would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carbonicdk View Post
    Probably also doesn't help that Z370 got released early and thus tends to have issues with XMP and memory overclocking in general. Bios probably needs a lot of work and there's sadly not been as many updates as I expected there would.
    I'm emailing ASUS support about those issues, seeing how the mods here are more interested on deleting messages rather than reporting them to the techs and giving status updates. It'd be nice if everybody with those voltage issues here did the same.

    Now, if only they could reply more than once a week, maybe we could get all the issues solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dovakhan View Post
    I'm emailing ASUS support about those issues, seeing how the mods here are more interested on deleting messages rather than reporting them to the techs and giving status updates. It'd be nice if everybody with those voltage issues here did the same.

    Now, if only they could reply more than once a week, maybe we could get all the issues solved.
    Hello

    This thread is for XMP specific topics only. It is not a dumping ground general whining and moaning. All future off topic posts will be removed without notification.

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    delete because offtopic^^
    Last edited by Atifan; 12-12-2017 at 07:03 PM.

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    Amateur in XMP Profiles

    ROG Strix Z370-e / i7 8700k

    Hi new member here. I am no expert in overclocking etc.
    I recently bought this PC (all brand new parts) few weeks ago. For being stupid (stupid coz I just updated BIOS just for the update) , I decided to update my BIOS to 5605 from 0419. I also enabled XMP profile. MCE disabled.
    Right now I have fluctuating CPU temps that I have never encountered on the previous BIOS build.
    Though it is stable like I can boot to Windows..do my normal stuff (browse etc.) It's just I have fears regarding these temps. Should I be worried? Should I downgrade to previous BIOS? I also experienced 85c in normal 3D sketchup renders....

    If anyone can try to help and point me on any particular setting to adjust on this latest update I would greatly appreciate it.
    Furthermore, I haven't done OC this one or any delidding or any expert stuff. Thanks once again!

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