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    Quote Originally Posted by Margus View Post
    asus told its 5 years old and no updates planned anymore witch is bad thinking for sutch issue.
    Can you please elaborate? Did you contact them directly and was told this by official Asus support? Where are you getting this information? Thanks.

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    If the above post is true.

    I think it's amazing there are so many people with z97 boards in here trying to solve this problem themselves and still Asus doesn't see there is any reason to do anything for us...
    Last edited by raximus21; 01-10-2018 at 05:56 PM.

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    Angry They Have The Microcode

    I'm using an i7-920 on the Rampage III Formula. This is an older motherboard with an X58 chipset.

    The system itself is still quite capable of playing modern games. It is certainly more than enough to browse the internet or do MS Office for kids in school.

    From post #161, we know Intel has provided the microcode fix for A LOT of legacy processors, including the i7-920.

    So, I'm going to be forced to buy a new system, paying new system pricing, only to have it gimped because all Intel CPUs are vulnerable at this moment.

    If I buy a new motherboard, new RAM, new processor, etc. then I am glad I have choices.

    ASUS, you WILL lose a long time customer if there is no BIOS update for my Rampage III Formula motherboard to fix this stupid Intel BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donavanbadboy View Post
    You are correct, I am being impatient, but as someone who knows enough about Spectre and Meltdown to write PoC "working" exploits in a test environment I realise the true seriousness of the problem.

    Making sure your AV is up to date and being generally cautious about which web sites you visit is not good enough.

    I hope ASUS push out microcode updates from Intel in short order for every applicable product they have ever made, and ASUS should (if possible) sue Intel for the costs.
    Computer cannot get infected without user interactions, am I right? So as Intel said, attacker need to access your OS locally, so this is not an airborne attack. It require you to access a malicious site or an email attachment or whatever able to deliver the payload, and run the malicious application in order to exploits Meltdown and Spectre vulnerability. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't patch it before it too late. Microsoft already done their part on Meltdown, and Intel vows that at the end of January all CPU been produced the last 5 years will be patch. However, Intel doesn't tell us how this will be distribute, but Intel did mentioned that they are working with motherboard vendor to push out the firmware to consumers. To put it simply understanding, we have to wait for the motherboard vendors to push them out because Intel have no control on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrevorK View Post
    I'm using an i7-920 on the Rampage III Formula. This is an older motherboard with an X58 chipset.

    The system itself is still quite capable of playing modern games. It is certainly more than enough to browse the internet or do MS Office for kids in school.

    From post #161, we know Intel has provided the microcode fix for A LOT of legacy processors, including the i7-920.

    So, I'm going to be forced to buy a new system, paying new system pricing, only to have it gimped because all Intel CPUs are vulnerable at this moment.

    If I buy a new motherboard, new RAM, new processor, etc. then I am glad I have choices.

    ASUS, you WILL lose a long time customer if there is no BIOS update for my Rampage III Formula motherboard to fix this stupid Intel BS.

    Older CPU's are listed, but it doesn't seem to mean the same as we have gotten a new microcode. I unpacked the microcode.dat and there is only five CPU's that have received a new microcode update thus far in 2018 and there is fourteen that received a new microcode in november-descember 2017. So it seems to be a total of ninteen CPU's/CPUID's that have received a patched microcode thus far.

    My i7-3960X and E3-1275v2 have microcodes dating all the way back to 2012 and 2013. So nothing new for them thus far and I'm not sure they will ever receive a fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SumTingWong View Post
    Computer cannot get infected without user interactions, am I right? So as Intel said, attacker need to access your OS locally, so this is not an airborne attack. It require you to access a malicious site or an email attachment or whatever able to deliver the payload, and run the malicious application in order to exploits Meltdown and Spectre vulnerability. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't patch it before it too late. Microsoft already done their part on Meltdown, and Intel vows that at the end of January all CPU been produced the last 5 years will be patch. However, Intel doesn't tell us how this will be distribute, but Intel did mentioned that they are working with motherboard vendor to push out the firmware to consumers. To put it simply understanding, we have to wait for the motherboard vendors to push them out because Intel have no control on it.
    Please don't patronise me. *shakes head*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Scone View Post
    This is due to the driver not being present at boot, thus before hand-off, the older microcode is still present whilst the OS is loading. Best thing to do is to wait for the UEFI update.
    Yeah in theory if there ever is a BIOS update especially on older machines.. lol

    I just wanted to see if there was someway to get this method to work. Unfortunately there may not be a way to get windows to enable the fix on the fly. If they could fix it so it can be on the fly that would be a good workaround solution for some people with older hardware that have potentially no hope of a BIOS update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefox2026 View Post
    PS C:\script\SpeculationControl> Get-SpeculationControlSettings
    Speculation control settings for CVE-2017-5715 [branch target injection]

    Hardware support for branch target injection mitigation is present: True
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is present: True
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is enabled: False
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is disabled by system policy: False
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is disabled by absence of hardware support: False
    Thank you! This part of the report looks really strange. May be, it is worth to show it to MS support and ask to modify software patch if it is possible? For example, switch software support later?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raximus21 View Post
    Thank you for the response on this subject.

    @xeromist

    What is the best way to ask Asus for help on this topic? Social media? On the forums? Is there some kind of email address that I can contact with my concerns? I want them to know there are people with Z97 boards that want the security update for this issue. Thanks again.
    Well, as to the forums anyway you can see who has read a thread by looking at the usernames at the bottom of the page. ASUS people have read this thread so they know there are people with older models that want a fix. ASUS may not have decided anything yet but are just working through various models & chipsets. Hence no ASUS person has posted a definitive yes or no because they don't know either. I'd hesitate to trust that single phone representative saying your board is too old. That could just be a personal assumption on their part rather than an official decision.

    Anyway, yeah it couldn't hurt to post on social media and to call ASUS support. Just try to be calm when doing so. As someone who used to work phone support I tried extra hard to help nice people but angry/mean people got the bare minimum of help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xeromist View Post
    Well, as to the forums anyway you can see who has read a thread by looking at the usernames at the bottom of the page. ASUS people have read this thread so they know there are people with older models that want a fix. ASUS may not have decided anything yet but are just working through various models & chipsets. Hence no ASUS person has posted a definitive yes or no because they don't know either. I'd hesitate to trust that single phone representative saying your board is too old. That could just be a personal assumption on their part rather than an official decision.

    Anyway, yeah it couldn't hurt to post on social media and to call ASUS support. Just try to be calm when doing so. As someone who used to work phone support I tried extra hard to help nice people but angry/mean people got the bare minimum of help.
    Thank you!

    This is the most helpful thing I've read so far. I will take this advice and remain hopeful but still vocal, but make every attempt to tone it down and remain calm since I now know the current situation (for older models) is at least on the Asus radar.

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