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    Quote Originally Posted by panzlock View Post
    People making lots of threads about this issue. Can we please centralize them so we know what;s going on, exactly? If a mod could merge threads or something, that would be nice.
    I don't have an official response to point people to yet. The best I can do is move this thread to General and rename it. All of the other threads are in different board/chipset areas so it's understandable that those folks want to know when they'll get a fix for *their* product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Praz View Post
    Hello

    This is an issue concerning the processor not the motherboard. As such, regardless of the platform, there is absolutely no valid reason for motherboard RMAs. While you are relishing in the fact of purchasing AMD keep in mind the fixes being pushed out will cripple AMD performance as well.
    How about fixing AIsuite though, which the Windows 10 patch renders broken..

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    Running PowerShell got this, after Windows update KB4056892 on 01/04/18:

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    My CPU is AMD 1950X on ZenithE, so I suppose “Hardware requires kernel VA shadowing: False” is OK, since AMD processors are not vulnerable to this:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...ctre_meltdown/

    But the branch target injection vulnerability is less clear, as “hardware support” is show as “False”.
    Since AMD says “It is much more difficult on all AMD CPUs”, let’s suppose it also is good.
    Anyone tried this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by squawker View Post
    Running PowerShell got this, after Windows update KB4056892 on 01/04/18:

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    My CPU is AMD 1950X on ZenithE, so I suppose “Hardware requires kernel VA shadowing: False” is OK, since AMD processors are not vulnerable to this:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...ctre_meltdown/

    But the branch target injection vulnerability is less clear, as “hardware support” is show as “False”.
    Since AMD says “It is much more difficult on all AMD CPUs”, let’s suppose it also is good.
    Anyone tried this?
    Those comments from AMD are bog standard replies, there are simply no known ways to exploit at this moment in time. It's the same as companies claiming that something kills 99% of all germs.

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    Post if Aisuite doesn't work after meltdown update!!!!!???? ASUS Please FIX THIS!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeromist View Post
    I don't have an official response to point people to yet. The best I can do is move this thread to General and rename it. All of the other threads are in different board/chipset areas so it's understandable that those folks want to know when they'll get a fix for *their* product.

    Thanks. Wasn't sure where to ask, support really didn't have a clue either (understandable).

    Think it's critical vendors are open with their users on what is going on.. It's quite amazing and sad to see this mess unfold. Intel is effectively in full PR damage control mode all over the internet with shills downvoating and outright lies being spread.

    For anyone curious, the LKML is a rather interesting place to lurk because the pace at which these changes are still being ironed out is astoundingly volatile.. The latest proposed alternative by Google for example is still software based and requires not only updates to the linux kernel, but compiler itself. The implications of which cannot be known without serious testing cycles and that doesn't factor in anything else like NVIDIA or AMD's own drivers. Which to anyone not familiar with linux, is a bit like MIcrosoft's relationship with them in that they are not maintained in kernel.

    Though they are putting out press releases like they cured cancer, Intel isn't even going that far in testing. They are literally throwing changes in for everyone else to test -- including AMD whom caught one of them already. It was an attempt to enable their "workaround" on _EVERY_ CPU even those that AREN'T VULNERABLE.

    Like I said, quite amazing
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    Partial fix this issue was in latest microcode package from Intel.
    https://downloadcenter.intel.com/dow...le?product=873
    http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool...71215.1.tar.xz
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    Is there a reason the forum is propagating this is an Intel / ARM only issue? I see a teamrog mod even renamed the thread this particular way. On the first day or two that was the thought but a simple google search will show the other big players are also affected. I'm not suggesting anything nefarious; I believe Intel, AMD, ARM are all working and will sort this as best they can working with vendors and developers.

    https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/

    "Variants of this issue are known to affect many modern processors, including certain processors by Intel, AMD and ARM. For a few Intel and AMD CPU models, we have exploits that work against real software. We reported this issue to Intel, AMD and ARM on 2017-06-01 [1]"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixon2992 View Post
    Current update for W10 incscrease latency all calls kernel mode objects(events,critical sections).
    And add some lags in Windows UI and slowdown I/O(unbufered read and write slowdown about 2x).
    With this windows update I have no performance degradation . No latency issues no drop in performance with the 8700K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no1yak View Post
    With this windows update I have no performance degradation . No latency issues no drop in performance with the 8700K.

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    An update to microcode will be required for certain CPU for the patch to work. You can check the status of the patch itself from within powershell following the instructions below:

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...erabilities-in

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