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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixon2992 View Post
    Version microcode on system:0x38
    OS: W10 1709 with security latest Patches.

    My system: W10 v. 1709 build 16299.192 with 04/01/18 security patches.

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    i tried to enable the fix for protecting against speculative execution side-channel vulnerabilities, by adding the 2 Registry values as shown in:
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/...tive-execution
    but to no avail, since powershell didn’t show any change in branch target injection (Spectre variant 2) nor added something about bounds check bypass state (Spectre variant 1).

    So, i suppose what PS says is: Windows OS support against branch target injection is OK, but it is disabled because there is not hardware support.
    And i also suppose that hardware support is a CPU microcode update to be released by AMD and provided by ASUS.

    Interesting is that PS rogue data cache load says that hardware (CPU) does not need any kernel patch, so it’s following AMD statement that their CPU’s do not suffer Meltdown bug.

    regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by segfaulted View Post
    Depends what benchmarks you're referring to and more importantly which mediation was used. The original proposed solution at least in Linux, from Intel, has or had quite a bite more overhead then the one Google claims to have gone with. There's also the issue of what was really being tested since not all games for example would be affected as they are more GPU constrained.

    Part of the fud being thrown around still involves what the exploits actually are.
    Your computer is like a school bus. In the morning it picks up kids for school but during the day and afternoon it's chartered. What's supposed to happen is the bus gets cleaned between uses. Meltdown exploits the garbage people leave behind. SPECTRE is less exploit and more observation since it's like looking at the gas gage to judge how far the bus went between users. It doesn't know who they are but can eventually piece together enough data to guess.

    All Intel's done at this point is replace the cleaning staff. They're slower, cost more and demanded concessions.

    Both are well understood design problems. Meltdown should never have happened if Intel actually followed ring isolation.

    What they are now calling SPECTRE for this, has been around for a long, long time and can affect anything with a cache since it's a timing attack. In HTTP it would be like a CDN sitting between you and a server. Probe the CDN enough and you can tell what is in cache. Find a way to uniquely identify a user - with say a session id in the url or sites without any kind of random seed - and you can passively determine where they have gone based on what is in the CDN. If it's there the response will be faster. That is what bugs like SPECTRE, are.

    It's quite different from Meltdown and a smokescreen attempt by Intel.

    * I've deliberately left out the mitigation methods in HTTP to better illustrate the point.
    There's a new BIOS out for the Maximus X Formula dated Jan 2. Guru3D does some benchmarks. http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages...hmarked,1.html Substantial 4K I/O performance degradation is noticeable in CrystalDiskMark, but it's so workload specific that I am finding it hard to elicit an emotion over it. Well, so long the new cleaning staff do their job...

    Cleaning the bus between uses would also make it more difficult for any lowlife to exploit spectre as new rubbish replaces old more frequently, right? ...or wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixon2992 View Post
    Dear.
    You can try "update" microcode on Windows with VMware CPU Microcode Update Driver.
    Last version public blob micocodes from intel:
    https://downloadcenter.intel.com/dow...le?product=873
    On Linux based systems new microcodes implented in latest Kernel.
    Latest version FW in public blob for Haswell-E:0x3A
    Latest version FW implented in updated LInux Kernel for Haswell-E:0x3B.
    Best Regards.
    Thanks, but the install.bat file within also requires AMD microcode in order to work, and the relevant AMD site is down, ...and I don't want to mod someone else's script because that kind of thing scares me.
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    Now look this...

    Real Bench 2.54 Image Edition 5820K 4.2GHz

    September 17

    197.304
    28.2745

    October 14

    199.103
    26.7559

    December 7

    197.903
    26.9221

    December 10

    198.633
    26.8232

    After Windows Update
    Januar 6

    138.704
    38.4125

    Intel just destroyed enthusiasm of thousands people worldwide.
    I think this is more than Intel could fix in near future.
    People would not satisfied until Intel completely recover them to the last percent of performance.
    How they think to do that and how much will cost them to do that, enthusiasts shouldn't care at all.
    If not Intel customers should promise Intel that his stock will be less than AMDs' now very soon.

    Guys who live on Image Editing....I have no word. I;m still under shock and think that maybe is something else.
    Are you aware that guys with Haswell-E in some cases have performance of Ivy Bridge E. Even after OC you can't compensate default results before new fix.
    Intel just crippled IT industry and himself, they explode. I don't remember this something like this happen in IT industry even close.
    Brain of 99% computers, is crippled completely. Not 99%, 100% of people who deal with Intel.

    hard core motherboards, deliding, watercooling, benchmarking, nothing worth any more at all.
    Nothing. I think impression of enthusiasts will never recover from this completely and many people think,
    People will start to scare from benchmark tests and scores because they show tragic reality next 5 years.
    But if you invest in i9-7980X after OC you will still beat 1950X... Hahahaaa.
    Last edited by Vlada011; 01-06-2018 at 08:34 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Axle Grease View Post
    Thanks, but the install.bat file within also requires AMD microcode in order to work, and the relevant AMD site is down, ...and I don't want to mod someone else's script because that kind of thing scares me.
    Dear.
    This sofware withi fixed bat file for Intel.
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/13Kb...ew?usp=sharing
    Last Public blobe(201711) uCodes not enable HW mitingation.
    Best Regards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixon2992 View Post
    Dear.
    This sofware withi fixed bat file for Intel.
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/13Kb...ew?usp=sharing
    Last Public blobe(201711) uCodes not enable HW mitingation.
    Best Regards.
    You need to find 20171215 intel-microcode linux package and extract the 0x3b microcode from there.

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    Hi all
    I have ( Asus x99 Rampage V Extreme )
    Bios i am useing is ( 3504 )
    CPU i have is ( Intel Core i7-5930K )
    I update my windows 10 to Version 1709 ( OS Build 16299.192 )
    I Done Test this what Testing come back dose not look good hoping it be fix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A.Catalin View Post
    Thanks for post but what why is my Motherboard not on the list ( Asus Rog x99 Rampage V Extreme ) ?
    Last edited by Caudwell; 01-06-2018 at 04:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caudwell View Post
    Hi all
    I have ( Asus x99 Rampage V Extreme )
    Bios i am useing is ( 3504 )
    CPU i have is ( Intel Core i7-5930K )
    I update my windows 10 to Version 1709 ( OS Build 16299.192 )
    I Done Test this what Testing come back dose not look good hoping it be fix.
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    Dear.
    You can update microcode with tool in atachments(with last uCode for HSW-E:0x3B)
    Best Regards.
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