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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanMachine View Post
    Yes we all have opinions and sorry if mine upset you. Thank you for reading my thread.
    Actually lightknightrr's reply in this thread was more upsetting - no contribution just another one making fun of my awesome cooler LOL.

    Though your replies have been constructive and useful, you have just been unfortunately the Xth one in a row bashing my cooler and the "bucket has kind of overflown".

    Quote Originally Posted by MeanMachine View Post
    I live in a hot climate where temps can reach 40C+ and ambient temps make all the differance. I do agree that the H80 is a good cooler for a cooler climate.
    I understand Bratislava is considered a moderate climate where you have a cold winter and max 30C in Summer on average.?
    The temps go above 30C quite often, the maximum measured temp in the past few years has been 40C.

    But the H80i is a good cooler for any climate!

    Quote Originally Posted by MeanMachine View Post
    Would love to see your validated bench tests and what you can achieve.
    OK, which software should I use for benchmarking and how do I "validate" test results?

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    There are quite a few benchmarks to play around with and validate.

    Here are some I have used.

    CPUz have an online validation process. Just follow the instructions

    https://rog.asus.com/articles/news/r...available-now/
    https://rog.asus.com/rog-pro/realbench-v2-leaderboard/

    https://www.maxon.net/en/products/cinebench/

    https://www.passmark.com.au/download/pt_download.htm

    http://www.userbenchmark.com/Software

    http://www.geeks3d.com/gputest/

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    I've had an H80, I stand by my words. =^_^=

    To put things in perspective, I've upgraded from a H100 to a H115 because there was sufficient difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightknightrr View Post
    I've had an H80, I stand by my words. =^_^=

    To put things in perspective, I've upgraded from a H100 to a H115 because there was sufficient difference.
    And could you elaborate on the reasoning behind this?

    Take for instance my CPU. No matter how much voltage I put into vcore it is not stable above 3975MHz. At 3975MHz all it needs is vcore at 1,3875V to be stable enough. So how would I benefit from a few degrees lower CPU temp if my cooler already keeps my CPU at 70 degree Celsius under AIDA64 SST?!

    The way I see this is that I can achieve a maximum OC at decent CPU temperature with a H80i v2 already and a H115 would not give me any benefit beyond this at all.

    Dont you agree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dusank View Post
    Dont you agree?
    Sorry dusank but it is not really possible to agree with this.

    You have to concede that if someone took your CPU and put it under liquid nitrogen then it would clock to 6-7-8GHz

    The simple truth is that the greater cooling you can bring to a CPU the better the stability when overclocking.

    Now, this has nothing to do with price performance and what one wants to spend on cooling. There we all have to make choices but this doesn't take away from the fact that more radiator surface area makes for better cooling and better OCing results at the more normal ambient temperatures.

    If you were OCing in a shed in Siberia then the size of your cooler would have less impact because it's already so cold that a single 120 or double or triple would all be able to shift the heat. However in normal ambient temperatures the less surface area you have and lower volume of coolant, the quicker your loop becomes saturated with heat and the higher is the equilibrium temperature for the loop.

    If you are happy with your cooler and your OC, fantastic. And sure, maybe the returns from better cooling could be seen as diminishing...but they are there and depending on the exact CPU sample etc are often substantial enough that people go after them.

    I have been from a H100 to a 240 to a 360 to two 480x80mm radiators...it all made an appreciable difference in top end stability.

    The biggest difference of course comes from ambient temp and airflow through a case etc. You can have a H115 in a bad airflow situation that will do the same as a H80 in good airflow...

    etc etc.

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    Thanks for the explanation Arne.

    So simply put, if my CPU was a few degrees cooler it would probably run stable at higher frequencies, right?

    The price is not an issue for me as the difference between H80 and H115 is rather negligible. (And as you can see I went with the best/most expensive AM4 components that I could get) The reason I had to use a H80i v2 was my case which I am happy with but does not fit a bigger cooler.

    I am not aiming at breaking any records and a few MHz more dont really matter to me thus I am quite happy with the results I've got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dusank View Post
    So simply put, if my CPU was a few degrees cooler it would probably run stable at higher frequencies, right?
    It's difficult to say 100% of course since there are CPUs that simply run into a wall no matter the voltage or cooling but talking generally then yes, that's true.
    I have noticed in my own benchmarking experiments that even 2 or 3 degrees can be the difference between completing a benchmark and the system failing.

    But as you say...

    Quote Originally Posted by dusank View Post
    a few MHz more dont really matter to me thus I am quite happy with the results I've got.
    We certainly don't have to chase every last MHz...and it is a nice OC!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanMachine View Post
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    Sweet CB score..those CPUs chew through that...I have to OC a 5960X quite a bit to get that kind of score

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