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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinmaster5000 View Post
    It's pretty obvious that halo-ing is not going to be much of a complain from the monitors. It looks like it'll be the only complain about the monitor (other than the chroma issues due to DP 1.4)
    I still don't fully understand this chroma issues. Does it affect texts only or colors in games/movies as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadchip12 View Post
    I still don't fully understand this chroma issues. Does it affect texts only or colors in games/movies as well?
    if you look at it this way even with the chroma color reduction at 4:2:2 it will still look better than a tn panel colors only I think
    Last edited by bubba123; 06-04-2018 at 01:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba123 View Post
    if you look at it this way even with the chroma color reduction at 4:2:2 it will still look better than a tn panel colors only I think
    It will slightly blur all visual information. For text in particular it might become hard to read under certain conditions.
    I think it doesn't make much sense to pick 4k for super sharp detail and then blur it down by 4:2:2 chroma again. Might just as well pick 1440p from the start (and enjoy higher fps).

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    Quote Originally Posted by alporta View Post
    It will slightly blur all visual information. For text in particular it might become hard to read under certain conditions.
    I think it doesn't make much sense to pick 4k for super sharp detail and then blur it down by 4:2:2 chroma again. Might just as well pick 1440p from the start (and enjoy higher fps).
    Well if 4:2:2 really blurs things then I think I will set the monitor to 98Hz permanently. Since I mostly play demanding games, no way it can hit more than 100 fps at 4K anyway. Hopefully 98Hz is enough to see some of those smoothness, given that the gpu can even hit that framerate. It will be a long long time before a single gpu can handle 4K at 100 fps; by that time we probably already move on to a new display tech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alporta View Post
    It will slightly blur all visual information. For text in particular it might become hard to read under certain conditions.
    I think it doesn't make much sense to pick 4k for super sharp detail and then blur it down by 4:2:2 chroma again. Might just as well pick 1440p from the start (and enjoy higher fps).
    but 4k is within reach already with higher fps it won't be like that long before we see gpu's that can push what this panel offers its not like we are trying to push 8k here I'm gonna call it now the 1180ti or the next titan will be able to push 4k 144hz
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadchip12 View Post
    Well if 4:2:2 really blurs things then I think I will set the monitor to 98Hz permanently. Since I mostly play demanding games, no way it can hit more than 100 fps at 4K anyway. Hopefully 98Hz is enough to see some of those smoothness, given that the gpu can even hit that framerate. It will be a long long time before a single gpu can handle 4K at 100 fps; by that time we probably already move on to a new display tech.
    4:2:2 isn't a huge problem, almost all the TVs that do 4k 120hz HDR have this issue, yet people dont really complain. It's mostly an issue on lower resolution monitors due to the lack of pixels (imagine pixels blurring into one another, but at 4k makes it alot less apparent). According to many people, in 4k of a 27inch panel, it shouldn't even be noticeable. However, it is noticeable for ingame texts (because they use a very small pixel count).

    The 4:2:2 issue will only happen when HDR10 is on, along with panel set to 120hz at 4k (because the displayport 1.4 cannot handle the bandwidth above 98hz for a 10bit screen). But ofcourse, it will be fine if you turn off HDR, since most games dont even have it, it wont even be a problem 90% of the time. In games that DO have HDR, you're most likely not even going to hit 98Hz in the first place, hence it is not even a problem. The only solution is to wait for DP 1.5 (maybe HDMI 2.1) to be intergrated into monitors (another few more years). And wait to see if the next GPUs can even max out a monitor of this caliber. Volta may not come out for another couple years, maybe more.
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    Wait, is it true that we cannot turn off the RGB lighting?

    EDIT: Nevermind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadchip12 View Post
    Well if 4:2:2 really blurs things then I think I will set the monitor to 98Hz permanently. Since I mostly play demanding games, no way it can hit more than 100 fps at 4K anyway. Hopefully 98Hz is enough to see some of those smoothness, given that the gpu can even hit that framerate. It will be a long long time before a single gpu can handle 4K at 100 fps; by that time we probably already move on to a new display tech.
    According to Sichtwechsel86, Just set the monitor too 98Hz for HDR content and 120Hz or 144Hz for SDR content. At 98Hz your get 10bit 4:4:4 RGB. At 120Hz/144Hz HDR off your get 8bit RGB 4:4:4. Windows should remember your settings

    Quote Originally Posted by Sichtwechsel86 View Post
    Did some testing with my GamingNotebook on my OLED...

    In normal i run 4K, 60hz, SDR, 8 bit, 444

    I just switch HDR via Windows on,
    and it automatically induces the Nvidia Settings i set at last for HDR

    (which is 4K, 60hz, HDR, 10 bit, 422)*

    If switched Off,
    it is back to normal Settings!

    Now i tried to set 24hz in HDR,
    4K, 24hz, HDR, 10 bit, RGB - for UHD BluRay (even if they are 4:2:2 encoded)

    by switching OFF,
    it was back to 4K, 60hz, SDR, 8bit, 444

    switching on again:
    4K, 24hz, HDR, 10 bit, RGB

    So i came to the conclusion - that Windows HDR switch indurces the last settings for SDR/HDR mode -
    very comfortable...

    If that works good:
    just set 4K, 120hz, 8Bit, RGB vor normal usage - and 4K, 98hz, 10bit, 4:2:2 for HDR usage
    switching between them should work via switching HDR in Windows on and off*
    (In my case the colorspace changes via this switch too - from rec709 to rec2020 -
    and the TV is following - based on the settings i made)

    All in all -
    i had not to go into Nvidia settings over and over again...
    I just set the settings under each mode once - and after that justed used the Windows HDR switch...*
    Last edited by Nikorasu95; 06-04-2018 at 06:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikorasu95 View Post
    According to Sichtwechsel86, Just set the monitor too 98Hz for HDR content and 120Hz or 144Hz for SDR content. At 98Hz your get 10bit 4:4:4 RGB. At 120Hz/144Hz HDR off your get 8bit RGB 4:4:4. Windows should remember your settings
    there is at least ONE mistake in my text:

    I meant:

    Set 4K, 120hz, 8 bit, SDR, RGB for normal usage
    Set 4K, 98hz, 10 bit, HDR, 444 for HDR usage

    And to all those who complain about 422 subsampling -
    yes - it induces a slight chromatic abberation effect at sharp edges on high contrast backgrounds...
    and that is for obvious reasons very annoying in desktop-use (office work, text writing, etc...)

    But in dynamic material (games/movies) - it‘s not a big deal!
    Don‘t forget, that even UHD BluRays are encoded in 422 chroma subsampling!
    (and BluRay in 420 subsampling!)
    That goes for Streaming too...
    even Netflix and youtube stream in 420 and 422 (non hdr/hdr)

    Ask yourself: was it a big deal for you?

    If so:
    Just use recommandation and set 4K, 98hz, 10bit, HDR, 444 (or RGB) -
    and remember - if you really want the extra of up to 144hz in HDR mode:
    Linus had to put his nose close to the screen to observe it - and even then: he just saw little of it in the area of the hud -
    and he used the very colorful Fortnite for a worst case scenario!*

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    Does anyone know where to buy the customized lens for the rgb light on the stand underneath the monitor? Want to change the ROG logo to something else instead.

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