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    Quote Originally Posted by Marko911 View Post
    hahah there is no such thing as too many rads!
    Tell that to this guy...
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    Cheers R5Eandme!

    Quote Originally Posted by R5Eandme View Post
    I had no choice but to build a computer in a room with carpeting while wearing non-organic cotton
    Sometimes we have to slum it...that's probably a good tip...as long as you don't bump the on/off switch half way through installing the CPU ...grounded is good!
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    Cheers Arne! Yes, slumming it is my way of life. And I'm with you on air-cooling for the paranoid

    Years ago I purchased from Cyberguys.com a green power supply connector that passes only the ground connection to the supply. I use it to eliminate the possibility of accidentally turning it on, while keeping the case grounded.
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    I have not been able to find a current source of these, however.
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  3. #43
    ROG Guru: Grand Master Array Arne Saknussemm PC Specs
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    Aha! now that's smart!

    Yeah...anything decent... they don't make it any more...

    Quote Originally Posted by sandro c View Post
    Excuse to the use a definition like "cynic" ... for Arne : mybee i wont to say sarcastic
    sandro c...think nothing of it...as I say they all apply on some days...I understand you perfectly

    Hope the recovery is a good one...and you take the chance to get spoiled rotten!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arne Saknussemm View Post
    Aha! now that's smart!

    Yeah...anything decent... they don't make it any more...
    Wouldn't be hard to make. Just buy a normal extension and remove the hot pin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xeromist View Post
    Wouldn't be hard to make. Just buy a normal extension and remove the hot pin.
    Hi Xeromist,

    You can also splice a small junction box into the extension and disconnect the black hot wire. Worth the trouble if you do a lot of building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R5Eandme View Post
    Hi Xeromist,

    You can also splice a small junction box into the extension and disconnect the black hot wire. Worth the trouble if you do a lot of building.
    Hi R5Eandme, hi people,
    I'm happy to know an owner of radiator for cpu noctua NDH15.
    How does this radiator for your cpu ... cool down particularly during a stress test? Unfortunately for me I do not have the same cpu (and mother bd) to make a comparison. I have a NDH14 modified by myself, and it would have been interesting to compare the efficiency but I think my cpu (an old i73930k @ 4600 Mgz on mb RIVE) gets warmer than yours during stress tests.

    X Arne ... OK I had no doubt that you understand me perfectly .... however, the recovery and the arm after the surgery is going well, it seems .... at least with mouse I can move it again, even if I write with my left hand!
    sandro c.
    Last edited by sandro c; 03-02-2018 at 06:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandro c View Post
    Arne, excuse me
    to look in your tread-post "Goodbye Intel hello AMD" , just to see the particular in your system build, i have remain a lot of time in this tread and i lose your replay. But i have see a very god building system ...wonderful.
    sandro
    Ciao Sandro C!

    My grandmother (emmigrated to US from Basilicata 100 years ago) she used to make Cannelloni, but not as elaborate as your wife's recipe. Wonderful food! Who cares about the diet! Even better with home-made red wine.

    I do have an NH-D15S with dual fans cooling an i7-5930K. I also have very high air flow in the case with a Noctua NF-A14 Industrial PPC 3000 PWM fan at the rear to exhaust heat from the NH-D15S.
    It idles around 30 C or 32C. Using the Intel Extreme Tuning Utility basic test, the temps reach upper 40'sC, low 50'sC, and there is never any thermal throttling. I think that it is very important to exhaust warm air from the case in the vicinity of the CPU heat sink. If not, efficiency of the CPU cooler decreases and the heat backs up into the CPU itself. If you are not satisfied with your temperatures, can you try a stronger exhaust fan at the rear of the case?

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    I've always preferred huge-air coolers on my rigs. Liquid-cooling is ultimately just a less efficient and louder form of heatpipes, if you really think about.

    That being said, liquid cooling is the smartest way to go on many builds, whether it be AIO or DIY. But too many people mistakenly expect it to be truly superior in every measurable capacity, to have every advantage and no disadvantage. Sadly not the case, more than enough fans or rads don't substantially improve real cooling.

    Google's datacenters are liquid cooled! And they run "a little warm". Their cooling is basically a big loop with the "reservoir" being massive swimming-pool-sized tanks of water outside the building. Their implementation doesn't use liquid cooling because it's "better" but because it's "cheaper" (overall) to let heat energy passively self-dissipate from the large thermal mass (tons of water) than to run active phase change (refrigeration, A/C, etc). More hardware failure over time, accelerated MTBF/MTTF, but robust redundancy (so no data loss) and hardware repair/replacement costs (in time and money) are still cheaper than energy costs for active cooling.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZmGGAbHqa0
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    Thanks for the YouTube Korth. That Google data center is probably why South Carolina is so hot an humid.
    I like air cooling because I am paranoid about my CPU and mobo taking a bath. But I am sure air and water are both great for their own reasons.
    Interestingly the heat pipes in a finned air cooler contain water vapor that must move through passive convection. So.... it is water cooling after all.

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    Yeah, don't mess with Google, they got alligators guarding their stuff!

    Quote Originally Posted by R5Eandme View Post
    Interestingly the heat pipes in a finned air cooler contain water vapor that must move through passive convection. So.... it is water cooling after all.
    I suppose it's a matter of terminology. Both systems involve a fluid (usually water) as the primary heat transfer mechanism, although heatpipes take advantage of phase change thresholds while waterblocks and rads just keep bulk thermal mass cycling forward. Heatpipes are inherently far more efficient in practice - unless you have a swimming-pool-sized reservoir, lol - but they basically have to be specifically designed for the actual dimensions of the parts and chassis in which they're used. (Something that's already done in all performance laptops. Imagine a robust, not cheap, properly-designed and purpose-engineered heatpipe-based cooling system integrated within a desktop chassis.)
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