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    I'm an idiot. How to kill your R6E monoblock...

    So I wanted a new colour in my computer. I have had red forever it seems, at least going back 3 computers ago. So I decide to run Mayhem Blitz. Twenty four hours later I'm noticing my flow rate for both my GPU and CPU loops are much lower. After a couple of flushes same thing. I had just run Blitz some 5 months ago with these new radiators so I wasn't expecting a lot of gunk but I was wrong. Both the GPU and CPU blocks filled with gunk.

    Okay fine. Remove the GPU block, take it fully apart, clean all the gunk out, put it together and WHEE, despite it being my first time to take apart a GPU block apart and I didn't break anything and no leaks!!

    Then I take out the EK Monoblock. I take it apart and I thought i was being careful, but apparently when I was rinsing the acrylic, I lose one of the two round orings from it. Of course I didn't notice this at all until I was putting it together and as I'm screwing in the screw associated with that oring I hear a 'crack'. Because the o-ring wasn't there, the screw went just a little deeper into the recess and that was enough to crack the acrylic and boom, waterblook is toast. Just to be sure I put it in my computer and tested it and yup, little drops dropping on my CPU's backplate.

    I've rush ordered one from DAZMODE here in Canada so I'm only down a day or so but damn I'm an idiot. I was so careful with the GPU block and I think I got a little cocky and just plain didn't pay attention. Oh well. In 6 years of watercooling this is my first major boo boo that actually cost me a component.
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    Sorry to hear about this Brighttail. I am glad it didn't cause larger issues with leaking and the computer itself.
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    Yeah, bad luck Brighttail! Live and learn is all you can say I guess...props for posting up the mistake though...might help someone else avoid it!

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    Sorry to hear about this too

    I particularly do not like any colored fluid (especially the ones we have to make the mix eg. Mayhem, Primochill Vue, etc.)
    I already read that they bring more problems than beauty

    https://youtu.be/fMV6XsUsZb8

    https://youtu.be/BYwgjwUfRaQ

    That's why 10 years ago I only use Koolance fluid without having any problem of clogging or low flow

    I hope you - who help so many people in this forum - can solve it as soon as possible. We learn more from mistakes than from successes.

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    Dude Jaystwocents is so missinformed and spreading wrong info across the web it boggles my mind how ppl aren't ****ting all over his channel. Sure there are some fluids like Aurora that are only recommended for short time use in like show cases and such. But gunk that builds up in your blocks is usually not from the fluid. It's the plasticizers from the tubes that then get dyed by the coolant and therefore the coolant itself is what ppl used to think was causing clowding or gunk build up in blocks. Some strong colors like red will always also over time dye acrylic, but usually won't cause gunk build up or clowding as I said.

    Use plasticizer free tubing and you will be perfectly fine.
    For example:
    Mayhems Ultra Clear
    EK-Tube ZMT
    new Primochill Advanced LRT (old ones had issues)

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    I've been using Mayhem's pastel (Red, Blue and Purple) over the last 6 years or so and have never had an issue with gunk build up. I ran a Swiftech CPU block, some Asus 980 Poseidon and MSI Sea Hawks with the EK waterblock and NEVER an issue with gunk. I really think it was these new Xflow radiators. I probably didn't run blitz long enough or didn't flush them in the sink enough, tho I boiled Distilled water and let it set a minute or two so I'd be pouring almost boiling water in to them before sloshing them around. I had a lot of crap come out of them at the beginning but eventually it came clean, so I really think it was the rads in the end that had even more **** in them.

    Yeah the monoblock is live n learn. Some water dripped onto the motherboard behind the shield, but I was using a PSU by-pass so no electricity to the board. It will be a few days before I get my monoblock it looks like so it will have some time to dry. Thankfully I was on my fourth flush so no red pastel left in the loop really and almost 100% distilled water.
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    I can agree with you because, as I have already said, I have never used any fluid other than Koolance.
    I was referring to Primochill's own warning ( https://www.primochill.com/collectio...uv-powder-blue )

    "For best results, use Vue with a newly built watercooling loop. If this is not possible, first ensure that each component is thoroughly cleaned by hand and dried. Next, use PrimoChill System Reboot to flush the system prior to adding PrimoChill Vue. Vue has a HIGH attraction to dyes. It's possible that Vue may leach old dyes out of components that had previous dyed coolants ran through them (radiators in particular). No amount of flushing with water will remove all previous dyes. This may result in Vue changing color slightly. For best results flush your system with PrimoChill System ReBoot prior to using VUE in existing systems that contained dyed coolant. Continuous circulating of VUE 24/7 will severely decrease lifespan. Please turn off your computer when not in use. Vue should not be moving for more than 8 hours continuously."

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    Agree with you here. I have no interest in using Vue. Some people swear by it but that simple part about not moving for more than 8 hours kills it for me.

    I think like Mayhem's Aurora, more and more folks are coming out with 'show' fluids, which is fine but people are wanting to use them in their home and these manufacturers are trying to find a way to do it. In all honestly there is nothing more safer than plain distilled water and a kill coil. NO dyes, no pearls, no biocides other than the natural silver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brighttail View Post
    So I wanted a new colour in my computer. I have had red forever it seems, at least going back 3 computers ago. So I decide to run Mayhem Blitz. Twenty four hours later I'm noticing my flow rate for both my GPU and CPU loops are much lower. After a couple of flushes same thing. I had just run Blitz some 5 months ago with these new radiators so I wasn't expecting a lot of gunk but I was wrong. Both the GPU and CPU blocks filled with gunk.

    Okay fine. Remove the GPU block, take it fully apart, clean all the gunk out, put it together and WHEE, despite it being my first time to take apart a GPU block apart and I didn't break anything and no leaks!!

    Then I take out the EK Monoblock. I take it apart and I thought i was being careful, but apparently when I was rinsing the acrylic, I lose one of the two round orings from it. Of course I didn't notice this at all until I was putting it together and as I'm screwing in the screw associated with that oring I hear a 'crack'. Because the o-ring wasn't there, the screw went just a little deeper into the recess and that was enough to crack the acrylic and boom, waterblook is toast. Just to be sure I put it in my computer and tested it and yup, little drops dropping on my CPU's backplate.

    I've rush ordered one from DAZMODE here in Canada so I'm only down a day or so but damn I'm an idiot. I was so careful with the GPU block and I think I got a little cocky and just plain didn't pay attention. Oh well. In 6 years of watercooling this is my first major boo boo that actually cost me a component.
    Before tearing down the loop and blocks, sometimes a back flush of the entire loop (or each block) is all that's needed. a D5 plumbed in in the reverse direction, pumping from one bucket to waste (bucket to bucket) does wonders! . I've even run the rinse through a filter bag to see what gunk was in there. Sometimes it's not pretty.

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    I always prefer a clear premix or straight distilled water and use colorized tubing if needed.
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